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pickle Member
Joined: Mar 19, 2010 Posts: 149 Location: Brandon, Manitoba Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:21 pm Post subject: Photos of M38CDN pics |
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Found a couple of photos from the Archives when look for military markings. Thought I would share with the group. One interesting one with interesting radio antenna placement there are a couple of others there as well.
Still trying to figure out how to post pics... |
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Bretto Member
Joined: Nov 24, 2010 Posts: 1390 Location: Orem, UT
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Is there any distinction of a m38CDN from a M38 just by looking at them from the exterior like these pics to tell the 2 models apart? Aside from obvious markings and some field gear they look identical, even looks like the Canadians liked the same color. _________________ Brett
'51 M38
PHOTO DIARY OF MY BUILD |
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16365 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:01 am Post subject: |
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M38 CDN
No patent plate
Serial plate on dash is CDN specific
CAR # (Canadian Armed Forces) registration is stamped on the top of the left front frame rail.
Convoy lamp under rear near rear crossmember illuminates the rear axle pumpkin at night which is usually painted a light color. It has an additional switch on the dash.
No Jeep script on the front of the tool box. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php |
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whydahdvr Member
Joined: Jul 18, 2008 Posts: 645 Location: Melrose, MA and Santa Fe, NM
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Wes, probably a hard question to answer but what is the likelihood of a CDN M38 being put onto a US M38 frame? This goes back to the constant search and question about the origin of my M38 body tub. Everything on it points to original except for the lack of "Jeep" script on the front of the toolbox. Unfortunately, all the data plates are gone.
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SteveJ Member
Joined: Jun 14, 2005 Posts: 110 Location: Calgary Alberta
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to jump in Wes. As part of the requirement by the Canadian Government that the trucks be built in Canada under contract Ford of Canada built the M38CDN except for the first few hundred. You still run across some of the early ones with the jeep script on the tool box. Once Ford got sorted out they stamped their own panels for the body. Its unlikely that ford would intentinally stamp Jeep or Willys on anything they made. Its like the GPW. Ford made sure they put their mark on just about every part.
Yours could have been repaired at one time and I guess it is posssible that one found its way there and was mixed in with a us built chassis. I find at this age of the vehicles you cannot disount any possibility. _________________ SteveJ
1986 CDN Armstron MT500 dispatch Motorcycle
1986 arrow 1.75 t cargo trailer
1991 Reynolds Boughton RB44 GS TUH
1952 M38 CDN W/W (Sold)
1953 M100 CDN Trailer
1951 PE95K Genset (Sold) |
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pickle Member
Joined: Mar 19, 2010 Posts: 149 Location: Brandon, Manitoba Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Found a couple more. Wes, I have posted these in the historical photos. If you want, I will post more as I find them.
Regarding the identification, another identifier (which I don't have on mine), is that identifier similar to the frame stamp (please someone correct me if I am wrong) is painted either on the side of the hood or more so beneath the driver and passenger side door (see photo).
In this photo, the colors of the jeep appear darker?? These guys are chaplins, but I am curious about the colours. A couple of other things that the M38CDN have are the license plate holder below the bumper (see photo) |
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16365 Location: Wisconsin
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BrianG Member
Joined: Dec 05, 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, CANADA
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Pickle,
Thanks very much for posting the M38CDN pictures.
Re the photo "chaplains near M38 CDN", is the CFR# 52 - 31925?
Do you have any more info on that particular picture (like date or place) and are there any more photos of that particular M38?
Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated.
Brian |
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pickle Member
Joined: Mar 19, 2010 Posts: 149 Location: Brandon, Manitoba Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Brian:
there are a couple more photos of that particular jeep (they are in the archives), but I will have to dig them up. the location is Gagetown. I don't think they had a date for it. I believe that is the CFR.
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BrianG Member
Joined: Dec 05, 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, CANADA
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Pickle,
Thanks for your reply. I sure hope you can access the other photos.
My interest in CFR # 52-31925 is because I have owned it for the last 15 years. This is my lucky day to find an "in service" picture of it.
Cheers,
Brian |
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pickle Member
Joined: Mar 19, 2010 Posts: 149 Location: Brandon, Manitoba Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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I have posted a number in the historical photos folder. the only other one that I could find of that jeep (confirmed) is a blow up of the same photo.
One other thing I noticed about this jeep and another is that they actually had hood ornaments to depict who it belongs to. Notice the gold crosslike figure, and in another that appeared to be a commander's, there was like another gold "tank" figure. |
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