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Bretto Member
Joined: Nov 24, 2010 Posts: 1390 Location: Orem, UT
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:13 pm Post subject: Retainer chain |
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Does anyone know what the type of chain is or what it's called that retains the various items so they don't get lost like the gas cap? _________________ Brett
'51 M38
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evanso1975 Member
Joined: May 10, 2010 Posts: 615 Location: North Yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Is this the type of chain you mean?
If so, I believe it's called weldless chain. Your local hardware store will most likely sell it by the foot. Or you can try fleabay. Not sure if it comes in different sizes or configurations though.
Owen. _________________ Owen
1951 US Air Force M38
1944 F-1 1/2-ton Airdrome Trailer
1940 C15 Chevrolet CMP 11-cab
1939 DKW KS200 Motorcycle
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Bretto Member
Joined: Nov 24, 2010 Posts: 1390 Location: Orem, UT
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Ya that's the chain. Bigbox shops around here don't carry it. _________________ Brett
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timjuhl Member
Joined: Jun 27, 2011 Posts: 262 Location: "Thumb" of Michigan
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: Chain |
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Got mine at TSC (Tractor Supply). I've also seen it in various hardware stores, either brass or brass plated usually.
Tim _________________ Tim Juhl
1952 M38A1
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djalohr Member
Joined: Jul 06, 2011 Posts: 100 Location: MD/NJ
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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i second with TSC |
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shack Member
Joined: Nov 19, 2008 Posts: 33 Location: Hardy Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Doesen't it need to be made of steel to be correct? |
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Bretto Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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No TSC around here
I'll keep my eyes open, can't be to hard to track some down. _________________ Brett
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evanso1975 Member
Joined: May 10, 2010 Posts: 615 Location: North Yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:08 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Doesen't it need to be made of steel to be correct? |
Yep. From the ORD 9:
CHAIN, weldless, safety, S, thkns 0.018 in
"S" being the abbreviation for steel. The chain pictured in my earlier post is NOS, and was painted green. So, brass would work OK since it gets painted. Inside the fuel cap I suppose was unpainted. _________________ Owen
1951 US Air Force M38
1944 F-1 1/2-ton Airdrome Trailer
1940 C15 Chevrolet CMP 11-cab
1939 DKW KS200 Motorcycle
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OKCM38CDN Member
Joined: Feb 17, 2012 Posts: 530 Location: Del City, OK
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Check your local ACE or Best hardware stores, that is where I got mine... I went with brass as it does not rust... _________________ Hal, KB1ZQ
TSGT, USAF (Ret)
1952 M-38 CDN CAR 52-31313
1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
Tornado Alley
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whydahdvr Member
Joined: Jul 18, 2008 Posts: 645 Location: Melrose, MA and Santa Fe, NM
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:54 am Post subject: |
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This looks similar to window sash chains so check out the big box stores too for similar chain. If you really have to I bet a marine supply would have something compatible. |
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wilfreeman Member
Joined: Mar 13, 2006 Posts: 1079 Location: Richburg, SC
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Saw it at Northern Tool today - brass, 1-0 (size, I guess), 15' of it - no price. I took it up front for a price check - $28! I put it back since I didn't need 15' of it anyway.
Any sources for the different clips (seat, shackle pins, top bow wing screw, top bow rods)? I think the shackle, seat, gas cap and radiator cap pins are all the same.
How are the chains attached at the other end? One of the shackle brackets, that still had a chain and pin attached, looked like a rivet driven into a drilled hole. Is it really a tapped hole and a screw? How are the rest of them attached?
I'm not ready to put these chains and pins on mine yet, but it is something that has crossed my mind a couple of times. _________________ Matt
1953 M38a1
1964 USMC M38a1
'51 USMC M100 trailer, '54 M100 trailer, '90 M101a1 trailer
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Bretto Member
Joined: Nov 24, 2010 Posts: 1390 Location: Orem, UT
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:40 am Post subject: |
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The other end is a rivet of sorts called a u drive screw.
_________________ Brett
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wilfreeman Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:55 am Post subject: |
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I have seen (or used) those somewhere before. Would a Lowe's or Home Depot have these (or maybe Tractor Supply)? I've been playing around with making my own clips - would probably take less time than driving somewhere to buy them, and definately cheaper than buying (and shipping) from one of the MV parts dealers! _________________ Matt
1953 M38a1
1964 USMC M38a1
'51 USMC M100 trailer, '54 M100 trailer, '90 M101a1 trailer
Http://wilfreeman.wordpress.com (M38a1 build blog)
http://m38a1usmc.wordpress.com (USMC M38a1 rebuild blog) |
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evanso1975 Member
Joined: May 10, 2010 Posts: 615 Location: North Yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I think the shackle, seat, gas cap and radiator cap pins are all the same. |
Not sure about the M38A1, but the M38 original radiator cap looks like this:
No place to fasten a safety chain. Couldn't see one in the ORD 9, but I may have missed it....... _________________ Owen
1951 US Air Force M38
1944 F-1 1/2-ton Airdrome Trailer
1940 C15 Chevrolet CMP 11-cab
1939 DKW KS200 Motorcycle
MVT # 19406 |
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wilfreeman Member
Joined: Mar 13, 2006 Posts: 1079 Location: Richburg, SC
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:35 am Post subject: |
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I'm not saying mine is original to the M38a1, but the dealer I bought it from said NOS for M38 and M38a1 - there isn't anywhere on top of the radiator to attach the chain though - that's why it's not on there. May not be right for the M38 and a1 - I was in the "Buy anything that the dealer says is NOS for the Jeep" mindset back then. I guess I could find some sort of clamp for the overflow tube - I like the idea of keeping it with the vehicle, as I am prone to lose stuff!
_________________ Matt
1953 M38a1
1964 USMC M38a1
'51 USMC M100 trailer, '54 M100 trailer, '90 M101a1 trailer
Http://wilfreeman.wordpress.com (M38a1 build blog)
http://m38a1usmc.wordpress.com (USMC M38a1 rebuild blog) |
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