Joined: Jun 09, 2011 Posts: 776 Location: Bellmore, NY
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:36 pm Post subject: I'm thinking I might need to regear
the axles. Pennsylvania has alot of hills, and even with the overdrive, it struggles to make it past 50 mph half the time. The thing is, the engine isn't screaming, it just doesn't have enough power. I'm not going to swap out the engine, and I won't regear if it'll do nothing for me. Opinions? _________________ 1952 M38A1
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If you have the stock 5.38 gears then you aren't going to find any lower gear ratio for your axles. If you are climbing a long grade you must drop the overdrive out and run it in regular third gear. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Joined: Jun 09, 2011 Posts: 776 Location: Bellmore, NY
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:09 pm Post subject:
I can't go with maybe 4:46? Plenty of people on the G503 forum mention regearing. _________________ 1952 M38A1
Marine core reinforced rear bumper, military transistorized turn signal upgrade, arctic heater, 11" drum brakes, 200L PTO winch, Huffy overdrive, deep water fording kit, RT 68 vehicle mounted radio, Trac Locs front and rear.
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You are thinking your ratio's wrong. If the engine can't push you up a slope faster than 50 MPH in third gear then you are already either geared to high or the engine is just sick. To work the engine less you need a lower gear ratio (larger numbers). If the tired motor can only get you to 50 MPH with 5.38 gears then a higher ratio like 4.56 will only get you up to 40 MPH before the engine runs out of snort.
An overdrive can only help you roll over 50 MPH when the road is flat or downhill. If you want 50 MPH+ uphill you need to lower the gearing by dropping out of overdrive and using regular 3rd gear or increase the engine's power. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Joined: Nov 24, 2010 Posts: 1390 Location: Orem, UT
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:26 pm Post subject:
Higher gears will lead to lesser power. The134 is no high speed runner, hence the low gears. It's a worker, not a racer. The overdrive was introduced to lower rpm's at higher speeds but it also robs power. _________________ Brett
'51 M38
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Joined: Jun 09, 2011 Posts: 776 Location: Bellmore, NY
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:32 pm Post subject:
Ok, gotcha. Yeah, on flat land, it slowly gets up to 65, which is more than I need. I'll drop it out of overdrive on those inclines.
I really doubt the engine is sick. It was rebuilt 300 miles ago, starts up with no use of the choke or throttle, and runs like a bull. _________________ 1952 M38A1
Marine core reinforced rear bumper, military transistorized turn signal upgrade, arctic heater, 11" drum brakes, 200L PTO winch, Huffy overdrive, deep water fording kit, RT 68 vehicle mounted radio, Trac Locs front and rear.
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Joined: Aug 11, 2012 Posts: 76 Location: Osoyoos.British Columbia, Canada
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:39 pm Post subject:
back in the day when i built my '47 2a, i had a buick v-6 and a warn o.d. i was 19 at the time and i had a" race jeep ". it still had the 5:38 gears in a dana 44. the way i used to shift it was, 1st - 1st over - 2nd - 3rd - 3rd over (2nd over and 3rd were so close it wasn't worth the extra shift) even with the v-6 i had to take it out of 3rd over to get up some hills. basically i had a 4spd with overdrive. i even used the overdrive in 4lo. i would never give up the 5:38's. if you get 65 mph out of that engine that's great! with my v-6 i could push 70. scary s*** to say the least. _________________ Frank 1952 M38 Cdn CAR 52-31812,1952 M38 Cdn F100005, 1967 Jeepster, 1999 XJ, 1999 TJ " rubiCLONE"
Joined: Jun 09, 2011 Posts: 776 Location: Bellmore, NY
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:06 am Post subject:
yeah, I don't want to regear. I've resisted this long, even installing an overdrive instead. I would really like to keep any non original modifications to minor bolt-ons (like my 11" drum breaks, and turn signals). _________________ 1952 M38A1
Marine core reinforced rear bumper, military transistorized turn signal upgrade, arctic heater, 11" drum brakes, 200L PTO winch, Huffy overdrive, deep water fording kit, RT 68 vehicle mounted radio, Trac Locs front and rear.
www.danhenk.com
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