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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:28 pm    Post subject: safety chain eye bolts Reply with quote

Iknow I will get dumb looks from this Q, but I was going thru some tm's for my m38 and noticed that there was never any eye bolts by the pintle. is this just bad illistrations or did they not have them from the factory?

what should it have? and are there different size eye bolts?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eyebolts are WWII US jeeps. Willys did not install eyebolts on the M38 or the M38A1. The M38CDN did get an eye of sorts in the form of a large angular loop. If you look long and far enough you may eventually find a US M38 with eyebolts and they may have been put there by the Army or Bubba. Some troops hooked the M100 chains on the bumperettes. Some M100's got longer chains and they were hooked on the rear lift shackles. Early on for some wild reason the Army issued a directive to remove all the chains from the M100's. So that kinda solved the issue except where state laws required any trailer being towed on their highways, including the US Army, have safety chains hooked up. A heads up is in order, the WWII eyebolts are too short for the M38 and M38A1.

Here's the M38CDN way:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what is on the back of my /52 USMC M38A1. I believe that it is original but it may be different from what the USA used.




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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is what is on the back of my /52 USMC M38A1. I believe that it is original but it may be different from what the USA used

That looks like the type used on the M151.

http://www.tnjmurray.com/militaryvehicles/index.cfm?shop/product/id/AB35A7C0-5056-A361-12202AC73BC33BDC/catid/A08137C2-C6F0-1794-9D1EA6E51721A959
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it does. I can't say it's correct for my Jeep or the OP's but it looks good and it's cheap.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is the M151 plate. It is seen often added by civvy owners but there's always that remote possibility a GI installed one and ignored the regs.

That is what I use on my USAF M38.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:24 pm    Post subject: safety chains Reply with quote

Thanks, looks like the same gov that orders the jeeps can't communicate with the same gov ordering trailers, some things never chainge lol
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