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hill
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:29 am    Post subject: Ramsey winches Reply with quote

I was wandering if the physical size of the Ramsey 50 and the Ramsey KX200 were the same or not.I have a KX200 and would like to use it if it could be installed without damaging the jeep to do so.I would also need a drive shaft setup I have the PTO and winch but no shafts.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Physical size between the winches is not the same.

Yes you can install a 200 series winch without damaging the jeep. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 200 is wider. You can use all the CJ 200 stuff to install the 200 on the M38. If you use the civvy PTO you'll have to modify your exhaust.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you dont want to modify your exhaust I have the correct pto for sale.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it might be tough to use the 105A pto unless you have the military shafts and hanger to go with it. (both difficult and expensive to obtain) The path it follows is too tight. When i had the 200 series on my M38 the longer drop of the civy PTO ( ramsey or Koeinig )allows a more direct path to the winch input shaft. ( though the exhaust as Wes indicated needs to be modified) Thus with the civy shafts you could get away with a short one to a civy hanger bearing and then one long one up to the winch eliminating the need for the spined segement and joint. The civy styly u-joints are a lot larger than the mil ones and take up more room.

You can mount the 200 in a angle iron frame and using the exsisting military winch frame bolt points. It needs to sit low in the frame like the 73A or 50 does so the universal at the winch input shaft will clear the steering gear at lock to the left if i remember. The winch engage lever on the 200 series normally comes on the side up against the grill but this can be switched also without too much trouble. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

check the cj3a page, he used the 105 a pto with a civvy winch
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We agree that it can be made to fit.
http://www.cj-3a.com/installing_a_pto_winch.htm

What we are pointing out is the civvy PTO's and shafts are plentiful, very, very cheap when compared to the military 105 PTO and shafts and will give much more flexibilty in their installations.

I would assume the CJ3A installer already had the Military 105 PTO laying in his garage for several years and didn't just go out and pay $1000 for one.

I have three civvy Koenig and two civvy Ramseys here in my shop. Very easy and inexpensive acquisitions.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a local fellow wanting to sell a Civy Ramsey 200 winch to me. I am just not aware of value. Jut the winch itself, not PTO, shafts or mounting brackets. Any help?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Varies a lot depending on condition and how much in parts that is included.

$50 for a boat anchor up to around $500 with a guarantee it works.
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