One of the rear lifting shackles that came with my M38 has an odd bracket attached to it. Hope you can see it ok:
I think it's been added by the military, as the plate had the same strata blue as the rest of the shackle (no OD base coat, though); couldn't see any likely item in the ORD 9. The rear shackles weren't attached when I got the jeep, so I don't know if the one with the plate attached was left or right hand. Also, I don't know if the "bent end" goes to the top or bottom. The bent end of the plate looks like it was once slightly longer (a bit looks to have snapped off).
Any ideas on the purpose of this plate, or do we reckon it's junk?
Thanks in advance,
Owen. _________________ Owen
1951 US Air Force M38
1944 F-1 1/2-ton Airdrome Trailer
1940 C15 Chevrolet CMP 11-cab
1939 DKW KS200 Motorcycle
MVT # 19406
I've never seen or noticed a plate like that. perhaps it was used to secure the shackle to keep it from banging around. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
I thought they were to go inside the crossmember to give added reinforcement (to stop the bolts distorting the crossmember when the jeep is lifted?). Not sure why they'd be between the shackle and crossmember though. _________________ Owen
1951 US Air Force M38
1944 F-1 1/2-ton Airdrome Trailer
1940 C15 Chevrolet CMP 11-cab
1939 DKW KS200 Motorcycle
MVT # 19406
Joined: Feb 28, 2011 Posts: 148 Location: Escondido, CA
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:07 pm Post subject:
On page 276 of the ORD 9, third item from the bottom of the page, is listed WO-800817, Ord P/N 8328264 "SPACER, bracket, left hook, rear", Qty 2, which I'm pretty sure is supposed to be "lift hook", not "left hook". Could this be the shims to which you are referring? It's listed immediately following the shackles and shackle pins; the "BRACKET, lifting hook, rear" and attaching hardware are listed on p. 275. I don't have the reference guide at hand to check to see if the spacers are covered in there, but given they are called "spacers" and not "reinforcing plates" or such, it sounds like they should go on the outside of the crossmember.
Dave - can you supply the dimensions of the shims? _________________ Jim M.
1952 M38 son-father project
Discovering more worn out parts, one assembly at a time
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:33 pm Post subject:
I think you're right, RimfireJim.
Army Jeep Parts have that part number listed as "Spacer, shackle bracket, rear x member" in the frame section. Question: do these spacers go between the shackle bracket and rear bumperette, or between the bumperette and the crossmember?
Wbr,
Owen. _________________ Owen
1951 US Air Force M38
1944 F-1 1/2-ton Airdrome Trailer
1940 C15 Chevrolet CMP 11-cab
1939 DKW KS200 Motorcycle
MVT # 19406
Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 721 Location: Placentia, CA
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:51 am Post subject: Spacers
Spacers are:
3" x 1 13/32" x 1/16"
Holes are:
Just over 1/2" ~33/64" (probably 1/2")
I can't remember how they were when I removed them. Not sure if they were between the bumperette and the cross member or between the bracket and the bumperette.
Joined: Feb 28, 2011 Posts: 148 Location: Escondido, CA
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:56 pm Post subject:
Thanks, Dave. Looks like an item that is easy to fab myself.
We need someone else with more knowledge to chime in here. 1/16" hardly seems like enough to bother with in this area, so I wonder why they were used.
Jim _________________ Jim M.
1952 M38 son-father project
Discovering more worn out parts, one assembly at a time
The front lift shackles fasten directly to the much heavier frame rails. The rear only attach through the bumperette to the much lighter rear cross member. That is why the spacer (actually should be called a doubler) goes behind the rear cross member to add strength to the contact area of the lift shackle's two nuts. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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