Create an account Home  ·  ·  Forums  ·  ·  Articles  ·  ·  Downloads  ·  ·  Photo Gallery  
Login
Nickname

Password

Don't have an account yet? You can create one here.

Navigation
· Home
· Article Archive
· Article Submit
· Downloads
· FAQ
· Forums
· Members List
· Photo Gallery
· Private Messages
· Web Links
· Your Account

Search Articles



Forums

Zerks causing trouble.
1952 M38 converting to 12V
M38A1 Slave Bucket location
M274 A3 Mule For Sale
flywheel advice
conversion from a 12 volt system back to a 24 volt system
M151 A2 + M416 Trailer For Sale
M38 ignition points condensor
TM9-8015-1 Clarification
Wiper motor...which is the correct one?

Willys M Jeeps Forums


willysmjeeps.com :: View topic - Radiator Cap & Leaking?
 Forum FAQForum FAQ   SearchSearch   UsergroupsUsergroups   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Radiator Cap & Leaking?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    willysmjeeps.com Forum Index -> Technical Knowledge Base
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Thomas
Member


Joined: Nov 22, 2006
Posts: 36
Location: Van Wych, SC

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:02 am    Post subject: Radiator Cap & Leaking? Reply with quote

In the last two months, I have been getting some leakage from my radiator through the overflow drain. I loose about a cup of fluid on each drive. I think I know what the problem is, but I would like to get some feedback from the group.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Thomas
Charlotte, NC
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
wesk
Site Administrator
Site Administrator


Joined: Apr 04, 2005
Posts: 16241
Location: Wisconsin

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1-Cylinder pressure leak into water jackets. after the engine warms up and with the cap off look for bubbles in the coolant at the top of the radiator when moving the throttle up and back.

2-Sticking thermostat. Should show up as a higher than normal operating temp.

3-Blocked radiator core. Try reverse flushing.
_________________
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
GPA
Member


Joined: Aug 07, 2008
Posts: 216
Location: Hungary

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rad cap hold pressure?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
artificer
Member


Joined: Feb 16, 2007
Posts: 206
Location: Gold Coast Australia

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a radiator pressure tester which will check the cooling system inegrity & the radiator cap. Some folk think they have a problem & keep topping up for the excess coolant just to overflow continually.
_________________
John GIBBINS
ASE Master Medium/Heavy Truck & Auto Technician 2002 USA
Licensed Motor Mechanic NSW # MVIC 49593 Current
YOU CAN'T TROUBLESHOOT WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Thomas
Member


Joined: Nov 22, 2006
Posts: 36
Location: Van Wych, SC

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentlemen;

Thanks for the information and help. I did a test today, and here is what I did and observed:

1. Removed the cap and found the water level just above the top of the core
2. Filled the radiator to the top,...just below the opening
3. Started the engine and warmed warmed it up
4. The thermostat housing warmed up, then the radiator intake area at the water inlet hose warmed up
5. As the water expanded it rose above the radiator drain inlet
6. As it rose, water droplets "danced: at the radiator
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Thomas
Member


Joined: Nov 22, 2006
Posts: 36
Location: Van Wych, SC

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continued:

7. There were no air bubbles as I increased the engine speed.
8. As the engine warmed up and the water circulated, the water temp seemed to equal out
9. I shut off the engine and the water level settled out just above the radiator core
10. With the engine off, I did observe two or three large bubbles work their way to the mouth of the radiator opening.

I then drove the Jeep for about 20 minutes and everything seemed fine. After the drive, once the engine cooled down a bit, I removed the cap and observed the water level was a little bid lower than when I started my drive.

Any thoughts? I believe my thermostat is fine. For now, I think I will try a radiator flush first and observe from there.

Thomas
Charlotte, NC
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
wesk
Site Administrator
Site Administrator


Joined: Apr 04, 2005
Posts: 16241
Location: Wisconsin

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
5. As the water expanded it rose above the radiator XdrainX OVERFLOW inlet
6. As it rose, water droplets "danced: at the radiator WHERE
This is normal.

The test that needs to be done is a pressure test of the cap with a real pressure tester. If the cap relieves pressure too early then you will have overflow at the overflow tube (this is not a drain tube) prematurely. If you overfill the radiator then lacking room to relieve pressure raw coolant will get expelled first.

Your test has only shown you how the system operates. As the coolant gets warm it expands. If you have over filled the radiator coolant will be expelled for a short while.

Take your cap to a quality well equipped auto repair shop and have them test it.

Do not overfill the radiator. Leave at least 1 to 2" of expansion space between the level of the coolant and the bottom of the filler neck.
_________________
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Thomas
Member


Joined: Nov 22, 2006
Posts: 36
Location: Van Wych, SC

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wes;

Will do. Thanks again for your help.

Question: any recommendation on a brand of radiator flush?

Regards;

Thomas
Charlotte. NC
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
wesk
Site Administrator
Site Administrator


Joined: Apr 04, 2005
Posts: 16241
Location: Wisconsin

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you should work one issue at a time.

I do not recommend any gooey agents being pumped into the cooling system. The best course of action when a cooling system is suspected of being stopped up is pressure reverse flushing with plain water and air.

If the stoppage is obvious and reverse pressure flushing doesn't clear the system then remove the radiator and have it professionally hot tanked.
_________________
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    willysmjeeps.com Forum Index -> Technical Knowledge Base All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Powered by phpBB © 2001 phpBB Group
Forums ©

 



PHP-Nuke Copyright © 2005 by Francisco Burzi. This is free software, and you may redistribute it under the GPL. PHP-Nuke comes with absolutely no warranty, for details, see the license.