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WOW! electrolytic rust removal
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Balvar24
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking maybe a Harbor Freight Tarp. One could be had for $20 $30. I've got one now over my m416 holding up about 5-10 gallons of water. The most pressure that a 4' deep tank would see would be around 1.7 PSI. If I spaced 8' long 2x4's on 2' centers, the most force seen would be no more than around 30 lbs. I'm intrigued. I may try some fenders first. I've got some scraps that I can build a tank frame out of. I'll keep you posted.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just pull and cleaned my T90 case out last night. Wow again.

If you've got an area in the yard, dig a hole and line it with plastic. Just keep any kiddies away! When done poke holes in the liner (if you don't care about it), let it drain into the soil, remove the plastic and backfill. Could be a lot of work for a tub sized hole though.

Here is a guy that built a tank to do a trailer frame.
http://www.antique-engines.com/trailer-electrolysis.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trailer thing looked pretty neat. Looks like if you aren't careful, you'd be better off putting the money towards soda or sandblasting.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, clean enough for a kitchen table center piece.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it'll be a shame to paint it huh??
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:06 pm    Post subject: Electrical rust and paint removal Reply with quote

Is anybody still doing this?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:17 pm    Post subject: wow!electrolyic rust removal Reply with quote

sfckunert I tried it on My gas tank for several hours and it did a fairly good job. After that I tried the molasses method for about two weeks. Then I rinsed it and poured in about a gallon of small gravel and about a gallon of the molasses mixture. I then made a jig to mount it to my concrete mixer and let it run for about an hour in various positions. I know it sounds like a lot of work but I was VERY pleased with the results. After I rinsed it good with soapy water and dried it GOOD I gave it a coat of "red kote" sealer and as I've already said I'm very happy with the results. U-tube has lot of videos on molasses rust removal. I got the molasses at my local feed store. They are the type made for cattle feed. Mine cost about $1.50 per gal. Don use too small of gravel because there are too many places for it to hang up making it harder to get it out of the tank. Now I know.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a tank out of the big plastic containers with a wire cage around it that chemicals come in. I cut the top off. I can get fairly sizable pieces in there. The pictures I saw above with rebar in 2x4's mounted give me an idea to improve mine. It does work well.
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I have experimented with both, and have found that sheet steel for the anode works much better than rebar because there is so much more surface area. With rebar, the anode becomes the limiting factor in the speed of the process, plus the crud builds up on it really fast because the action is concentrated. Consider that an inch of 3/8" diameter rebar has just over 1 sq. inch of surface area; four pieces gives you under 5 sq. inches per inch of length. Whereas a piece of sheet steel lining a 5 gallon bucket gives you somewhere around 30 sq. inches per inch of depth (I don't count the back side of the sheet) and much more uniform exposure for the cathode (part being de-rusted). Any thickness of plain carbon sheet metal (not galvanized!) that you can shape will work, but thicker will last longer. A local sheet metal fabricator may have scraps that they will just give you. Junk automotive panel steel will work, too.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great point. I tried this process over the weekend with the rebar and an exhaust manifold with great results. I'll try ton get some pictures of my setup and the results tonight. In going to try the sheet metal method this weekend.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Works great doesn't it? I haven't had to de-rust anything for a while but it's a nice tool to have available.
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