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lmgoldstein Member
Joined: Oct 11, 2013 Posts: 17
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:33 pm Post subject: M38a1 Top Bow (top frame) assembly |
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Question: Has anybody ever fabricated the top bow for a jeep? I don't see anything complicated about this except for the price people are asking for it. Two pieces of EMT, a couple rivets, and flat ends for the hardware. Any thoughts or comments? |
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jeeperjoe Member
Joined: Apr 19, 2013 Posts: 105
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'd love to see someone do it and post the drawings or even sell copies of them. Someone was supposed to send me drawings for the door frames but never did. |
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G740 Member
Joined: Jan 27, 2006 Posts: 498
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:16 pm Post subject: Bows |
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Everyone thinks that making this stuff is easy. NOT.
The ends require a die to stamp it correctly. It is not just flattening the end.
A jig is required to secure the tubing in a specific plane that must be maintained so that when the flattening is done, it is parallel to the body and will engage the pockets correctly. This typically cannot be done in a standard press brake because there needs to be a window in the ram for the other end to fit thru.
The tab for the folding bow needs to be formed as well, not just flat stock. A jig needs to be made to properly locate the tab at the right height and the correct location of the stationary bow so that the folding bow mates up properly once riveted in place. Riveting is also required and this takes more tooling.
Not just a simple thing.
John |
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Bobber Member
Joined: Feb 09, 2014 Posts: 178 Location: Tri Cities, Washington
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed! It all looks simple. But from some experience, after I try a few times, I'm money and time ahead to just purchase the item. Sometimes you get lucky, just depends on what you're working on. _________________ Rusty, 1952 M38, Koenig hard top. |
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jeeperjoe Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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I've been looking for an original top frame for five years now without finding anything. At this point it's make one or use a repop from Ada/Omix. [/u] |
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RonD2 Member
Joined: Oct 02, 2014 Posts: 1889 Location: South Carolina, Dorchester County
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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I need one too. I have no problem buying a quality set of repop or NOS top bows from MWM, but it's the shipping cost stopping me --- double the cost of the bows for shipping just because of the odd shape and size?
I've been holding out for awhile hoping for a coincidental trip where I (or an acquaintance) can hand carry them home.
What about cutting them in half and sleeving them back together and welding the seams? If that would get the shipping cost back down to reasonable $30-$40 I might do that. _________________ Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51
“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari
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4x4M38 Member
Joined: May 30, 2014 Posts: 3440 Location: Texas Hill Country
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RonD2 Member
Joined: Oct 02, 2014 Posts: 1889 Location: South Carolina, Dorchester County
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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I can't weld for cr*p, but I know somebody who can!
The question is: would MWM charge me extra to cut one in half?
I'd really rather not go that route, so if anybody is ever coming to Charleston SC from the mid-west I'd sure like to know if something could be worked out in the way of transportation.
Maybe MWM might be interested in a distributor in the south east?
It occurs to me I'm going to get a chewing from Wes for tailing off this thread in the project forum when maybe it ought to be elsewhere....... _________________ Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51
“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari
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