Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:41 pm Post subject: M38 Brake shoes
Hi, Just wondering if anyone can tell me where i can find NOS brake shoes for my M38, I want the asbestos and matalic material in them, They seem to work much better than the new ones they have available today
Joined: Oct 02, 2014 Posts: 1900 Location: South Carolina, Dorchester County
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:04 pm Post subject:
Hi Bubbles,
Welcome to the forum!
Doesn't mean much, but I don't recall ever seeing NOS asbestos brake shoes advertised anywhere.
If anybody has them, or knows where to find them, it would probably be one of our venerable military jeep parts vendors: Midwest Military (MWM), Brent Mullins Jeep Parts (BMJP), Army Jeep Parts (AJP), or a couple of the other vendors dedicated to military jeep parts.
Give them a phone call.
I'm curious why you think asbestos shoes "seem to work better" compared to new modern material shoes?
Selling anything with asbestos these days might be asking for trouble?
Can you share some experience comparing the difference?
Less "brake fade" when hot?
Where are you?
Share us some photos of your M38!
Good luck! _________________ Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51
“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari
I've used plenty of original shoes, and new ones; there is no difference, except that you won't get lung cancer from the new ones.
I would forget your search and focus on other things. Reading your TMs and SNL. _________________ M38 23100 June 51
M38 34523 Sep 51
M606/CJ3B 1964 Kaiser 57348 118458
M37B1 1963
Willys MB 1944
Ford GPW 1942
Dodge WC63 1943
Dodge Power Wagon WM300 1967
Plymouth Barracuda, 1973, 340 4 barrel
All ground up restored by me.
Lots of others.
Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 721 Location: Placentia, CA
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:41 am Post subject: Brake Shoes
Before I took my Jeep apart, it had modern replacements and stopped just fine.
My current axles are either NOS or government rebuild right out of the crate. They have older brake shoes that work just fine too.
I can say that the older brakes generate a ton of brake dust when compared to the new shoes. I pulled the drums off after a couple hundred miles and there was more dust than I anticipated. Not sure if that means anything, just an observation.
The older asbestos type shoes do create more residue and over the long term professional exposure can be a health issue but there is no real measurable difference in performance between old asbestos & new NON-Metalic shoes. New metalic shoes will show a noticebale increase in performance but then the drums will wear much quicker. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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