Joined: Dec 22, 2010 Posts: 49 Location: Victoria, B.C. Canada
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:49 pm Post subject: 53 M38a1 steering parts breakdown
For as many times as I have heard Wes say"look it up in the appropriate download, my wealth of knowledge is contained therein" ,I'm dammed if I know HOW to acccess the mythical information!!Duh. In short, info on a tear down of tie rod ends, re and re and relative. Also good parts source if possible.[/i] _________________ 1953 M38A1...CFR 53-32475
1953 M-100..CFR 53-70201
Joined: May 30, 2014 Posts: 3447 Location: Texas Hill Country
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:50 pm Post subject:
W,
I looked at the parts breakdown in the Ord 9 G740 for the M38,
tore mine down, and ordered parts from Midwest Military.
I'm sure any of the other reliable parts suppliers would have the
parts you need as well.
The toughest part I had was separating the joints. The manuals and experts
say use a pickle fork. Mine were so bad I knew I was replacing them so I
used a pry bar and BFH. Then unclamp the ends and screw them out.
Be sure and measure the distance between the right and left joints so you
can get close to toe in when putting everything back together.!
The civilian manuals have a little more information and I also have
Moses Ludel's book Jeep Rebuilders Manual which I recommend.
Be sure and get the early jeep version.
TM 9-8014 Page 264 thru 275. Pages Page 266 Para 225 thru Page 268 Para 226 covers each tie rod blow by blow and cotter pin by cotter pin.
Here's the magic i use!
The Table of contents is on page 1 & 2 . Run your finger down to page 1 Section XXI. this line will point you to page 264.On page 264 you read para 222 which explains the steering system to you, then Para 223 tells you what user maintenance is authorized, then Para 224 describes setting the toe-in and finally Para 225 starts replacing the tie rods and their ends.
Piece of cake.
As mentioned above your ORD 9 for the M38A1 will give you several good illustrations as well. But more importantly it gives you the Willys part numbers and in some cases the Spicer numbers either of which will get you the part if you google it or use a knowledgeable counter guy at your local auto parts store. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Joined: Feb 20, 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Illinois
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:40 am Post subject:
Here's how to navigate on this website to the pot-o-gold information: At the top of the page you will find hotlinks to the various sections of the website, click on "Downloads". On the main Downloads page click on "Manuals". Then on the next page you will see a link to "M38A1, M38A1C & M38A1D, M170", click on that and another page opens with manuals for those models. Go down to TM9-8014 and click on that link. The manual will open as a .pdf file (Adobe file). If you don't have the Adobe Reader program on your computer, go to www.adobe.com to get it - its a free download. Once in the manual there is a table of contents, scroll down to the appropriate pages. You can read the pages on-line or download the entire manual to your computer. Then you can print out pages if you wish. I often print out pages to take to the shop - doesn't matter if they get all greasy, I just toss them when done, can always print more. Once you can find your way around in the Downloads section - look around for lots more information. Here's a link to the Manuals page: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=60 _________________ 1951 M38
Joined: Dec 22, 2010 Posts: 49 Location: Victoria, B.C. Canada
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:39 am Post subject: Thats the ticket!!
Thanks,Skyjeep50...and Wes of course, now I've got it! I've been working out of a manual that came with my jeep. 7610-21-848-1570, but I see its dated December 1968, close but no cigar. _________________ 1953 M38A1...CFR 53-32475
1953 M-100..CFR 53-70201
You have a Canadian M38A1,you require the CV32 and the Canadian maintenance manual (#72 and #72A for starters)
Here are your manuals here..
Contact Joel for a quote.
#72
594 pages
CV-32 CDN. ORDNANCE CATALOGUE PARTS LIST FOR TRUCK, UTILITY, 1/4 TON, 4X4, M38CDN. TRUCK, UTILITY, 1/4 TON, 4X4, M38A1 CDN. (ILLUSTRATED)
JULY 1957.
#72A
300+ pages
7610-21-848-1570 M38A1(Canadian),A2,A3,
Maintenance manual
December '68-'Jan.'71
#72B
296 pages,
TM9-804A, Maintenance and Operational Maintenance manual for 1/4 Ton, Utility Truck, M38A1. July 1952
#72C
185 pages,
TM9-8015-1, Ordnance Maintenance Manual: Engine (Willys-Overland Model MD) and Clutch for 1/4 Ton, 4x4, Utility TruckM38A1. March 1954.
#72D
311 pages
TM9-8015-2, Ordnance Maintenance Manual; Power Train, Body & Frame for 1/4 Ton, 4x4 Utility Truck M38A1.
Aug 1954.
#72F
184 pages
TM9-1828A, Fuel Pumps, Covers all M38A1 fuel pumps.
Dec 1952.
#72G
143 pages
TM9-2320-208-20P, Organizational Repair Parts and Special Tools for Truck, Utility, 1/4 Ton, 4x4, M38A1, M38A1C and Truck Ambulence: Front Line, 1/4 Ton, 4x4 M170.
Feb 1959.
#72H
180 pages
TM9-2320-208-20P, Organizational Repair Parts and Special Tools for Truck, Utility, 1/4 Ton, 4x4, M38A1, M38A1C and Truck Ambulence: Front Line, 1/4 Ton, 4x4 M170.
Jan 1966.
#72I
180 pages
TM9-2320-208-34P, DS and GS Maintenance Repair Parts and Special Tool Lists for Truck, Utility, 1/4 Ton, 4x4. M38A1 and M38A1C and Ambulence: Front Line, 1/4 Ton, 4x4, M170.
Jul 1966.
#72J
73 pages
ORD 7 SNL G-758, Group G, Organizational Maintenance Allowances for Truck, Utility, 1/4 Ton, 4x4, M38A1.
Jun 1952.
#72K
78 pages
ORD 7 SNL G-758, Group G, Organizational Maintenance Allowances for Truck, Ambulence: Front Line, 1/4 Ton, 4x4, M170, and Truck, Utility: 1/4 Ton, 4x4, M38A1, M38A1C.
Apr 1956.
#72L
185 pages
ORD 8 SNL G-758, Group G, Field and Depot Maintenance Allowances for Truck, Ambulence: Front Line, 1/4 Ton, 4x4, M170, and Truck, Utility: 1/4 Ton, 4x4, M38A1, M38A1C.
Mar 1956.
#72M
358 pages
ORD 9 SNL G-758, Group G, List of all Serice Parts of Truck, Utility, 1/4 Ton, 4x4, M38A1.
Jun 1954.
#72N
72 pages
ORD 9 SNL G-758, List of All Service Parts for Truck, Utility, 1/4 Ton, 4x4 , M38A1, and Truck, Ambulence: Front Line, 1/4 Ton, 4x4, M170.
May 6, 1955.
#72O
450 pages
ORD 9 SNL G-758, List of All Service Parts of Truck, Ambulence: Front Line. 1/4 Ton, 4x4, M170, and Truck, Utility: 1/4 Ton, 4x4, M38A1.
Sept 1956.
#72P
389 pages
TM9-8014, Operation and Organizational Maintenance manual for 1/4 Ton, 4x4 Utility M38A1, and Truck, Ambulence: Front Line, 4x4, 1/4 Ton, M170.
Apr 1955.
Joined: Dec 22, 2010 Posts: 49 Location: Victoria, B.C. Canada
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:59 am Post subject:
You are indeed a wealth of knowledge, thanks for all your assistance, with this info, I've learned there is a right and left thread in the tie rod ends, without making myself crazy on the dismantle! _________________ 1953 M38A1...CFR 53-32475
1953 M-100..CFR 53-70201
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