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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also even though you are within the 90-110 parameter you still have a noticeable spread between your high and low cylinders. The industry standard is 10 % meaning the lowest cylinder must be within 10% of the highest cylinder. In your case 10 % of your high cylinder 106.7 will be 10.67. 106.7 - 10.67 = 96.03. Your # 1 & # 4 cylinders are both much lower than 96.03. This imbalance causes the engine to vibrate excessively increasing several parameter wear rates.

Most experienced mechanics when faced with your compression readings will followup with a leak down pressure check to determine the source of the compression loss on those two cylinders. The two primary sources are ring wear and valve leaks.

How the leak down test is performed and how to understand the results are here: http://www.gregsengine.com/cylinder-leakdown-testing.html

In a leak down test the allowable low reading is 30% of the highest cylinder reading.

I always do the leak down test on all cylinders.

Testers can be found in two configurations:


Single gauge


Double gauge

The double gauge is quicker and easier to use. They are priced from $30 to $150.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK Wes, I have noticed this imbalance, especially when the engine is half-warm. I will go for your advice when the weather here allows so. I will try to borrow this kind of equipment rather than buy it. It will be quite an investment for a one time use.
Do you think an ordinary repair garage will have such an instrument?
Anyway, for the moment I am rather pleased with her running almost according to my wish.
Have a nice weekend.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most repair garages in the US will have one. I am not certain about Sweden. Racing garages will certainly have them.

They are simple to build. two 0-100 PSI gauges. A block of aluminum. A .040" ( 1.0 mm) orifice type restriction. A fine low pressure regulator. Adapter fitting for spark plug hole.



Here's a "Do it yourself" site: http://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-how-tos-installations/481133-how-make-your-own-faa-spec-leakdown-tester.html
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The DIY tester is now on my wish list, thx for the link Wes.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wes
Thank you for all information, I have downloaded everything to my simple chamber ponder newfound knowledge. I will study this thouroughly next week.
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