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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 11:23 pm    Post subject: Crankshaft Packaging Reply with quote

How were replacement L134 crankshafts originally packaged to avoid bending or other damage?

I have an NOS crankshaft that is presently stored vertically on a wood base. I want to build a crate/case to hold it in a horizontal position.
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I googled "Willys Crankshaft Crate" and the only crates that popped up were a Chevy V-8 crank and a Spare DB 605 crankshaft (Meserschmidt 109), appearing fresh from the machine shop.




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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never store a good crankshaft horizontally; only vertical. They will warp. Of course, if you never plan to use it without re-grinding, then store it any way you like.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's an interesting statement. Especially considering they are left lying horizontal for the better part of their entire lives. Crated they are usually horizontal as well. Do you have any data to support your position?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wesk wrote:
That's an interesting statement. Especially considering they are left lying horizontal for the better part of their entire lives. Crated they are usually horizontal as well. Do you have any data to support your position?


Storing crankshafts vertically is a common assertion; I have no opinion if it is true or not. The concept is that a crankshaft is designed to be supported on its main journals, like the example in the crate. In use, of course that how it is supported. Again, the theory is if the crankshaft is stored horizontally on the counterweights, it is subject to unbalanced loads and can bend over a long period of storage. You can find strong opinions from mechanics, engineers, and shop foremen on both sides of the issue. Crank machine shops typically store vertically, although this may be for convenience and space saving. Flathead Ford engine rebuilders recommend vertical storage, or V-block mains supported horizontal storage.

I currently store mine vertically, bolted down to a wood deck, coated with Cosmoline and covered with a plastic bag. But, I am building crates similar to the photo example with wood V-blocks supporting all 3 main journals.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Never store a good crankshaft horizontally;


The addition of the three words
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on the counterweights
changes the meaning of dpcd67's original post significantly. Now since most cranks do not have symetrical counter weights it stands to reason they may bend unevenly due to loading when stored for very long periods resting on their counterweights.

However when properly supported at their main journals this is not an issue.

The reason why I do not store cranks vertical? The risk of damaging the crank when stored vertical is much greater because they are easily knocked over.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That wasn't my post saying 'never store...'.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep,
Wes got that. Note he says your comment inserted into the original comment
clarifies the original statement.

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