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M38 Wire Harness Clips - Left front Fender

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:39 pm    Post subject: M38 Wire Harness Clips - Left front Fender Reply with quote

Just about have my modified (highly) M151 harness ready to wrap and fasten down to the the driver side inner fender. Of course I have left a minor, but nagging, detail to the last minute...

The 3 J clips that suspend the headlight wire harness on the fender of my M38 were long gone, but I found the part numbers, and good photos of the "wire loom retaining clips" in Ryan Miller's book on page 93: ORD #432653, superseded by #145411. Turns out they are the same as the ones on the top of the radiator shroud that suspends the headlight crossover harness.

Has anybody found a source for these, or something close, available out there? I am coming up short from the usual suspects.

Failing finding something close, I will either modify or use a common aviation style Adel clamp.

Thanks for any suggestions, Jeff
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try Restoration Specialties in PA... they carry lots of stuff for older vehicles...

restorationspecialties.com I believe...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! I looked forever and gave up. Went with regular loop clamps. I see this one, which seems to be pretty close to the M38 Reference Guide photo (and the ORD9 dimension 3/8"):

https://www.restorationspecialties.com/B-1255-CLP_p_41105.html

No indication if they're in stock, or if you have to buy minimum quantity to order. If you have to buy minimum quantity, put me down for a dozen!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried Midwest Military or Mullins, they both have a lot of nos stuff with Mullins probably having an edge. Another place to check, as an albsolute last choice is willysjeepparts.com
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Midwest Military has them in stock.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all for the good suggestions.
Ron, that one from Restoration Specialties looks real close, and the price reasonable.

Best, Jeff
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jeff,
My M38 was missing them from the git-go. I have size 10 screw holes where they should mount so using regular loop clamps was easy.

I'd like to try these, but remain a bit confused about how they're fastened down to sheet metal? Might be missing it, but haven't been able to find a photo in the TM's or the Reference Guide that shows how they're installed.

What purpose do the little forked prongs do? Do they fit into the screw holes to hold the clip to the sheet metal without having to use a screw and nut?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John at Midwest Military has them. That's were I picked up mine.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RonD2 wrote:
Hi Jeff,


What purpose do the little forked prongs do? Do they fit into the screw holes to hold the clip to the sheet metal without having to use a screw and nut?


Yes. the forked prongs compress as you push them through the hole and spring back once the "hooks" clear the hole. No nuts, no screws or washers.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!
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