Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 344 Location: Wichita, KS
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:41 pm Post subject:
Yes. Guard, Tail light and trailer connection is found in group 2101 of the SNL. _________________ 1951 M38
1952 M38
1952 M38A1
1942 Dodge WC-55
1951 M100 trailer
1942 Ben Hur trailer
Joined: Oct 02, 2014 Posts: 1881 Location: South Carolina, Dorchester County
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:37 pm Post subject:
The guards for the M38A1 and M38 are very similar, but different dimensions --- they aren't interchangeable. I believe John at MWM stocks both as reproductions.
Both mount with four 1/4-20 bolts to the weld-nuts on the guard as I recall. The inside of my M38 fender well is slightly tweaked after 65 years, so I had to exercise some patience to finesse mine into place.
Not mine, but an M38 guard in place:
And mine. The center vertical crease and cut at the base was necessary to fit it into the space because of the body tweaking previously mentioned:
_________________ Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51
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Joined: Feb 17, 2012 Posts: 530 Location: Del City, OK
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:32 pm Post subject:
Thanks, just wanted to be sure. Working on a '54 M-38A1 and trying to fill MOST of the bubba holes.
Will check with John to see what he has. _________________ Hal, KB1ZQ
TSGT, USAF (Ret)
1952 M-38 CDN CAR 52-31313
1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
Tornado Alley
Del City, OK
Joined: Feb 17, 2012 Posts: 530 Location: Del City, OK
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:56 pm Post subject:
I ordered and received a Guard Panel for my M-38A1, I notice it takes 5 bolts to hold it in, I find 4 holes on my tub, 2 top of fender well, 2 on inside of fender well. Where does the 5th bolt hole attach? Is there an angel bracket used from the reflector bolt on that side? Have looked thru the M-38A1 Body gallery in Wes's Album but do not find that connection... Also nothing that I could find in the SNL. Little assist welcome. _________________ Hal, KB1ZQ
TSGT, USAF (Ret)
1952 M-38 CDN CAR 52-31313
1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
Tornado Alley
Del City, OK
Joined: May 30, 2014 Posts: 3438 Location: Texas Hill Country
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:33 pm Post subject:
Hal,
I’m looking at the photos of the panels above. I only see four as well, but they are inside fender well into cargo compartment, and fender itself. I do not see anything in the top of the panel.
Joined: Feb 17, 2012 Posts: 530 Location: Del City, OK
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:04 pm Post subject:
Brian, the photos above are for the M-38 panel, not the M-38A1 panel... they are different...
The question you asked about the 5th bolt is what I am trying to figure out... _________________ Hal, KB1ZQ
TSGT, USAF (Ret)
1952 M-38 CDN CAR 52-31313
1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
Tornado Alley
Del City, OK
Joined: Feb 17, 2012 Posts: 530 Location: Del City, OK
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:19 pm Post subject:
I think I found what the 5th Screw / Bolt is for, got to thinking that this shield protects electrical components / wiring. And did a search and found this...
CLIP, loop type, closed, s hole for no. 10 screw (positive
cable to dash (1); negative cable to dash (l), negative
cable to splash apron (1))
SCREW, mach, w/int-teeth lock washer, pan-hd, cross recess,
S, cd- or zn-pltd, no. l0-24 NC x 1/2
Any comments? _________________ Hal, KB1ZQ
TSGT, USAF (Ret)
1952 M-38 CDN CAR 52-31313
1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
Tornado Alley
Del City, OK
I think he was asking where, in the panel is this 5th hole you mentioned. Not where in the tub was the 5th hole. It would get all of us on the same page if you just posted a couple of photos of your new panel itself.
The bottom right photo is the only one I have of the panel itself.
Joined: Feb 17, 2012 Posts: 530 Location: Del City, OK
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:56 pm Post subject:
I stated the question wrong for the 5th Hole in the panel... It should be where does the 5th hole in the panel attach to the body or what is it for? (main face of the panel, if 2 weld nuts are at top, two are at left matching the holes in Wes's Top right photo The four slots are for the panel. The 5th hole will be low on the right side of the main face.)
The two holes Wes's in the top Left photo is for the reflector.
If I read the SNL correctly in my previous post this is where a ground connection is made for the wiring harness... Bad spot in my opinion, but that is what the SNL says... _________________ Hal, KB1ZQ
TSGT, USAF (Ret)
1952 M-38 CDN CAR 52-31313
1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
Tornado Alley
Del City, OK
Why not just post a photo of yours directly to your post above. Pictures are always worth at least 1000 words! Or ask John for permission to post his. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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