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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2022 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK don't know how I missed that second part of your message but that is the truth funny as it may be.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2022 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

“OK don't know how I missed that second part of your message but that is the truth funny as it may be.” JDR

That’s the magic of what happens when we post at the same time Very Happy .

... and then someone goes back and does an edit. (me) Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2022 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least now I know I'm not completely losing my mind.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2022 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

“At least now I know I'm not completely losing my mind.” JDR

Well, like the rest of us you are restoring a war jeep.
So, there may be a problem somewhere. Very Happy

We 70 year old guys go to bed early. Later.

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a point there, fixing any old vehicle in ill repair will make you half crazy or completely insane especially with limited knowledge on 60 or year old tech that's in limited supply.

I'm no where near 70 but some days I sure feel that way considering how the world is changing, born in the 2000s but feel like I was born in the 40s or 50s.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2022 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having been Infantry myself, all the rucking in SF, I've "dozed" on long ruck marches..... Broken foot and all.

Still, would rather ride! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2022 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A long while back I worked on the fuel tank, even have pics of what I think was the uptake and sending units that were attached to the tank. Maybe not.

Today I was refurbishing stuff and, well, something ain't right.
Maybe I have a M38A1 uptake unit .... but I sure thought it fit the tank... until it didn't.
Best path forward ?? I can trim that puppy to fit. or... I can spend money. ????




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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2022 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Don,
Are you saying that everything fit when you took it apart --- but now it doesn't?
Same gas tank, same fuel pick-up assembly?

The only thing you bought and changed since you took it apart was a new filter on the end of the pick-up tube?

Here's your earlier post photo: http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=13273&highlight=tank+filter

It's hard to see your tape measure.....how far is it off from fitting?

What changed?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2022 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I isn't correct you should be able to order one from Kaiser Willys and also cross reference years and models that will fit.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2022 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the link to what's supposed to fit an m38 https://www.kaiserwillys.com/vehicle/50-52-m38/fuel/sending-units/fuel-tank-pick-up-unit-fits-50-52-m38
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2022 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Bubba senses say cut the thing down and save 200 bucks for something else.
But you have to ask yourself a set of question ,will this mess up something or will this be a never ending nightmare?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeepDrivingRay wrote:
If I isn't correct you should be able to order one from Kaiser Willys and also cross reference years and models that will fit.
KW is the last place I look for anything M38.
Crazy-expensive pricing of parts that are advertised as M38 parts but aren't.
If you get past the many errors on almost every page, they do have a slick catalog --- maybe better for the CJ's I don't know.

I prefer to stick with the well-known venerable military jeep vendors that have a great reputation for accurate parts and much more reasonable prices.

But that's just me.

I imagine Don might want to research the problem before throwing money at more parts or cutting things. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a fair point on both accounts.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2022 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tank is about 7” deep. The pick up is about 1/2” longer.

It’s been two years. Maybe the pick up was already off the tank when I took the pics. Maybe the pic I have of the pick up still attached to to tank was from another jeep that got mixed in with my build folder.

Anyway. I spent a lot of time buffing up a unit that don’t fit.
If adversity builds character then I will soon be a very fine fellow. Wink

Hey!!
That ‘Greek’ rear wiring harness I bought early in the build fits my two plug light switch and looks to be the correct length for the jeep.... and it’s not rotten.

The trailer plug & wires on the other rotten NOS harness I bought look in ‘not so bad’ shape. I clipped it off and may slap on some shrink wrap to stabilize the wire covering then add connectors and drop it in the rear slot.

then crawl under the jeep and try to find where the clips go... yeah, I got the diagram but a ‘fly by’ set if pics or video that offer a real life view of the wiring harness is what this noob needs. Back to the barn.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a silly thought but the top of the tank hasn't gotten bowed down at all has it?
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