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RonD2
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:17 pm    Post subject: Fuel Shut-off Valves Reply with quote

I have what I believe are 2 NOS Anderson Kantleak Series 172 fuel shut-off valves for sale. The connections are both 1/4-inch female NPT.
Cost is $18 each, delivered by USPS continental U.S. only.

From the manufacturers webpage:
The 172 Series 2-Way Shut-Off Valve features instantaneous on-off operation. These valves have a solid bottom and are O-ring sealed. The O-ring seal, unlike packings, require no maintenance. The lapped brass body and plug are individually mated to give the best possible seal. Generally recommended for gasoline, oil, kerosene, LP gas, gas-air mixtures, and air system applications. The maximum operating pressure is 30 P.S.I.

https://www.andersonbrass.com/product-page/172-series-2-way-shut-off-valve
https://www.andersonbrass.com/product-page/m672-series-shut-off-valve

The M38 ORD9 (September 1955, page 83) calls out this valve with 1/8-inch NPT connections. I've never seen one that size. This valve can be easily adapted to M38 fuel line by using a reducer fitting on each side.

I have an Anderson Kantleak M672 valve on my M38, also 1/4-inch female NPT and it looks identical to these. The Series 172 valve doesn't have the internal 90-degree positive stops like the Anderson Kantleak M672 valves do, but the handle is plenty firm not to move around by itself. As far as I can tell, the only difference between them is the 90-degree stops.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m in for one, Brother.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you using these to replace the hard to find original ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me Ken?

Right now I have nothing in the way of a shutoff valve.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can use any brass or modern lightweight material valve you wish but any addition of reduction nipples on both sides will cost you a re-adjustment on the length of the two fuel lines.

A note on O'Rings. They are not maintenance free as indicated above. They have a 10 year useful life. Drying out again and again for winter storage will shorten their life. They are a Boss type o'ring so they can survive the rotational wear longer then std O'rings.

I have found brass 1/8" NPT SOV's in the past. You must look harder and in places other than auto supply.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Wes,
It's been awhile since I installed mine, but am pretty sure that when using an original 1/8-inch valve, a connector (reducer) is necessary, maybe two, depending if you have the dash-mounted primer pump tee. I installed the primer pump tee on mine, but plugged it off.

And because my M672 valve is 1/4-inch fittings rather than the original 1/8-inch, I had to use connectors on both sides of the valve.

I believe the difference in length of fuel line caused by the difference in connectors would be negligible (maybe 1/2-inch?), and more than made up for with the flex line at the end of the line that connects to the pump with room to spare. I bought a pre-cut, flared, and formed fuel lines kit and experienced no difficulty with length using it.

Overall, with the primer pump tee, it is a rather long string of fittings to put the valve in. I may end up taking the dash primer pump tee out to clean it up some. I also noted that the end of the clutch pedal shaft comes close to the valve handle (in the off position) when the pedal is fully depressed, but does clear it. Something to watch out for when installing the valve.

The connector is listed and shown in section 0306 of the ORD9.

I've been looking for 5 years for a 1/8-inch valve with no joy. Doesn't mean they aren't out there, I just ran out of patience. A very crusty take-off surfaces once in awhile, but I decided to go new since it's fuel and I don't need fuel problems because I tried to resurrect something from the dead. Anderson Brass lists them in their catalog, but nobody has stock that I could find.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a shot of my M672 Anderson Kantleak Fuel Valve installed with the dash primer pump tee.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't go wrong with these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/274851117391?hash=item3ffe67394f:g:QO0AAOSwmZBg3E9x
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--- Enzo Ferrari

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One left. Still $18, postage included.
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