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CoastieReid
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:52 pm    Post subject: M100 trailer on a trailer Reply with quote

Going to pick up a M100 in about two weeks when I am on leave for the holidays.

Will need to trailer it back to my house about 250 miles. No way Iím running a speedway- I mean highway.... back here on old tires and unknown axle history.

Uhaul has a few options- I sold my flatbed a few months ago so I will need to rent. The Uhaul is either a 5x9 with ramp or a 6x12 with ramp.

From what I have read, the m100 is 5x9 overall.

Anyone done similar?

We are probably all guilty of this. I am...

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RonD2
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi April,
This is what I did:


U-Haul car dolly. Cheaper than any of their trailers, especially if you play around with the pick-up location somewhere in between where you load it and home seems to be cheaper rates.

U-Haul wants to know in their on-line reservation system what you're hauling but has no provision for a "trailer on a dolly", so I just picked that I was hauling a Willys CJ3A and it went through. Nobody at their store asked me what I was hauling, and I didn't volunteer it. I hauled mine from Maryland to South Carolina with no problem at all. Hardly knew it was there behind my 2003 Tacoma 4x4 and 4-banger motor that has a 3500 pound bumper hitch. It's a safe load to haul.

The M100 weighs less than 600 pounds so the dolly has plenty of capacity for it. Note my block of wood under the M100 tongue and some ratchet straps to secure the M100 tongue to the dolly tongue worked well for me. The dolly has wheel straps and chains for securing the axle. I think the dolly needs a 2-inch ball, but recommend you confirm that.

The dolly has ramps, but you'll need help loading. It's not a one-person job. Two can do it. It's a little awkward getting the M100 tongue up to the dolly tongue (one person stepping through the dolly frame while pulling the M100 tongue, while the other person pushes the M100 from the rear).

I can't take credit for the idea --- saw it on another jeep forum while I was debating which U-Haul Trailer to rent.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You and I must think alike because I wanted to used a car dolly. Can do one way with those, but the trailers are the kind you return to rental place you got it from.

I imagine it will mostly be me alone loading this. I have a come-along, straps, rubber and solid dolly wheels I could bring(was going to clamp one to the landing foot so I could push it myself. I have plenty of dunnage too.

I am going to look at my options. But I like what you did.

Had no problems with squirrelly weight on the roads? It being the route I took for my Jeep was okay except in DC at 10pm which was stupid.

Iím headed to PA to get mine. Spending money Iím not gonna say how much on it, but- itís in better shape than my m38 was.

Iíll be towing it with my 13 F150 FX4 4x4 3.5 ecoboost
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No squirrel problems at all. It tracked straight and true, and I was doing 65 on the interstate most of the way.

The gentleman who sold me mine helped me load it. As long as the wheels aren't frozen it's easy to move around by lifting the tongue (about 60 pounds). The hard part is getting it up the ramp at the same time. I hope you can get some help.

I'll take a photo of the block of wood I used under the tongue. It's 4"x4" about a foot long. Use your circular saw to cut a 3/4" slot about 2 inches deep for the casting on the M100 folded landing leg to rest in (you'll see it), then strap it down tight. Very solid.

You won't have any problem with your F150. You might only see the dolly fenders in your rear-view mirrors.

I know you'll post some photos of the new M100 when you can.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The weight and size of load looks tailor made for the dolly, I for one would not hesitate to employ it. The one way ticket is a bonus.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4 by 4 a foot long. Set saw depth about 1.5 to 2 inches and make about 4 plunge cuts (chisel out the debris) to get 3/4-inch wide semi-circular slot.
I also use the block when stowing the M100 in the garage tongue down.



If you find a convenient on-the-route pickup location within about 50 miles of the M100 you won't have to haul it empty very far. Some locations seem to offer better rates than others. I recall I paid about $75 to rent the dolly whole trip (one long day).
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got my reservation for the vehicle dolly from U-Haul set. Canít get up there till the 27th.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I did it, at first it was a bit scetchy with the washboard narrow rads.





The straps on the body tub crisscrossed are to keep a new bed floor in there for my peace of mind.

Loaded pretty easy with two people. One to push and one to lift the tongue. The 4x4 I had was too long and didnít sit right on the dolly tongue. Thankfully I put two eye bolts in it so I could strap the heck out of it. Next time Iíd make it a 4x6 about 8Ē long.

This tub is rough. Pretty sure I can handle it though.

Future me problems.

Drive was a little white knuckle over a bridge in MD nearby Dalgrem Naval base. Narrow bridge, at night, windy and semi trucks over the center line. Minimum speed on it is 40 with max 55. I went over it at 35.

Those Auto Dollyís are loud when empty. Otherwise I only knew it was there when the washboard road made me very aware.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Coastie,
Glad the dolly worked out for you, and that you got help loading! That dolly has a wide track doesn't it?

Your M100 looks pretty original and unmolested (except for missing data plates). With the hard wired light harness cable (no cable stow box mounted on the bow, no safety chains), I think it's a later model. Repro data plates are available on the market.

I've never been able to find out how many M100's were made, when and for how long they were made, and who all made them. Mine was made by Dunbar-Kapple, but have also seen Strick, and at least one more make (the name escapes me).

Having the Army registration number may help narrow down who made it and approximately when it was made. What's the number?

Portrayal Press has the manuals (ORD9 SNL G-747 List of Service Parts) and (TM9-871A Technical Manual).

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Splendid! Glad the trip was (relatively) uneventful.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear you made it safe and sound. You passed within 20 minutes of me just after you got into Maryland from VA. The Harry Nice Bridge (RT-301) between MD and VA is old and tired, they are building it's replacement now.

My 1951 M100 is a Dunbar-Kapple also.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RonD2 wrote:
Hi Coastie,
That dolly has a wide track doesn't it?

Having the Army registration number may help narrow down who made it and approximately when it was made. What's the number?



the trailer certainly had a wide track, almost yellow line to white line on a one lane road.

The trailer I used compared to yours was that this one was newer and had a brake on it. which made using a 4x4 like you mentioned and I made very difficult. The brake mechanism is in the way. I had to put it on there sorta cockeyed.

The trailer number is 01279054.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coastie,
I had to go look at the data plate on my M100 (original). The serial number on the data plate is also the paint-stenciled Army registration number.
The serial number on a M100 is only on the data plate, not stamped on the frame or any where else by the manufacturer..

Mine is 01169903. I'm thinking you have a Dunbar-Kapple also.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since we're sharing serial numbers, mine is 01171301 date 5 51.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a very early Strick M100. It's only the third unit down on the serial number database I have on them.

Make Model Serial # DOD Military # Contract # Resp Agen Remarks
Strick Co. M 100 104 7 / 52 USA 01278238 DA-20-113-ORD-2038 ebay On Read 5 BN HQ 6

I hate I can't post a clipping of the database that's in order and not so jumbled up but the data I have is:

Strick Company
Serial # 104
Date of Delivery 7 / 52
Registration # USA 01278238
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