Look what I found today

[Bill_F]

Here are pics of what I found today. In the pics you will see an m38a1 and a cj3b in a garage. I did not take pics of the other m38a1 that was in even better shape, the two rusty m38's both with hardtops. One had complete gas hearter the other had parts of one. Both still 24 volt, very rusty, had back seats in all jeeps, and very complete. The guy also has a very rotted netkaff (sp?) m38a1 the engine was used for the m38a1 I did not take a pic of. The one in the pic still has its 1952 dated tires in good shape. I should have taken a picture of everything he has, no they are not for sale, and I will not tell you where they are. And these jeeps have been sitting since 1985.

[Bill_F]

I also forgot to mention that he has 2 reproduction m38 tubs that I did not see. and an NOS canvas top for the m38a1 still in crate

[Ryan_Miller]

Bill,

Cool photos. It is always neat finding old vehicles.

You should post some more pics if you get the chance.

Ryan
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Ryan Miller
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[wesk]

Nice find Bill. I hope you'll have a chance for more photos in the near future. Long term stored vehicles like this are often still in very stock condition and deatiled photos of them are very valuable.
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45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

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[Bill_F]

All of the jeeps are very stock. The m38a1 in the picture is missing the serial number off the main plate but has the patent plate on the dash. One of the m38's had a DOD of 5/51, this is the one with the complete heater, the other one did not have a tag on it. Both m38's had almost everything including slave cables, hard tops, to bad they where left outside, about 6 inches of leaves are in one of them. You could probably build on good jeep out of the two with a new body. I should have taken more pics, they are the only pics I took. The guy has had a junk wc dodge, not much left to it.

[davem201m38]

Hi could that Netkaff (sp) be NEKAF, these are Dutch built copies of the M38A1 built using as much (all) indiginous parts and material as possible. Often have fibreglass / plastic body parts like floors and wings.
All the best,
Dave

[Bill_F]

yes that is what I meant.

[davem201m38]

Hi again, been away for a while.

What's odd is that a NEKAF has turned up in the States, I can't imagine that it would have ever been economic to import it form the Nertherlands.
These NEKAFs are no more a Willys product than the Hotchkiss is. Over here many people (most!) re-badge them as the Willlys product but they are simply a Licence built copy, the first few were were assembled from kits. Which is a bit of a bummer if you've gone to a lot of trouble to acquire a genuine A1.
Because of the excelent condition of some of them when they were released some years ago I can see how to get a NEKAF and then re-badge it as a Willys could be financially tempting.
There was a few years ago a steady stream for Hotchkiss M201s imported to the States and re-badged as Willys MBs.
Hum.... intersting,
Dave.

[maeserik]

In our 'jeep club' we have a lot of nekafs, but everyone called them m38.

When i came in the club with mine original USA m38, they first said it was a cj3.

There was confusion between mb - hotcckiss - cj2 / cj3- cj3a - m38 / m38a1 - nekaf

Is the nekaf engine not a willys product and is it a look alike ?

club :http://www.vzwspearhead.be/
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1951 M38 MC11891
1953 VW beetle (genuine german Käfer )
1957 fantastic wife

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