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Cacti_Ken Member
Joined: Apr 20, 2005 Posts: 1021 Location: Silsbee, Texas
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: Wire cutter |
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Looky here, M38's with wire cutters.
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35th Inf. Reg. "CACTI" 4th I.D. VN
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16358 Location: Wisconsin
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Ryan_Miller Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 03, 2005 Posts: 1650 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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I found it on an auction website, there was not info provided. I put it on the historical photos album here on the website. _________________ Ryan Miller
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Cacti_Ken Member
Joined: Apr 20, 2005 Posts: 1021 Location: Silsbee, Texas
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Do you see that Duece and a half in the back ground with the squared off fenders. When did they hit the scene? _________________ Tropical Veteran
35th Inf. Reg. "CACTI" 4th I.D. VN
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dv3468 Member
Joined: Dec 02, 2006 Posts: 115 Location: Bloomfield, New Jersey
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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I just saw that myself last night on the historic photos album. I was amazed to see wirecutters/anti-decapitation devices on an M-38! I thought that was only a WWII problem!! |
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Cacti_Ken Member
Joined: Apr 20, 2005 Posts: 1021 Location: Silsbee, Texas
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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The photo paper looks just like the paper that photos I took in Vietnam were printed on. It has that white border surrounding the photo.
Well, heck that don't mean nothing. I just checked, I got some made in states prior to going to VN that have the same thing _________________ Tropical Veteran
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16358 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:55 am Post subject: |
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They look like 5 tons in the background. The bumper markings should help. Do we have any grunts from the 60/70's that can ID the
TCA516-S
I did a little searching and found what may make sense of this.
Berlin's Templehof Central Airport was operated by the Army from 1945 thru 47 then Air Force took control with Army units as tennants. Since this was part of the transportation corridor between Berlin and West Germany the jeeps had to traverse a lot of barbed wire areas and the East Germans had a habit of throwing up no notice road blocks with barbed wire. The TCA can stand for Templehof Central Airport, Transportation Corridor Authority or Transportation Corridor Agency. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php |
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jeepers52 Member
Joined: Mar 12, 2008 Posts: 92 Location: Oro Valley, Arizona
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Wire cutters were even on the M151 A2s. When I was in the Army I drove one with a wire cutter on the front bumper, I hated that thing. |
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16358 Location: Wisconsin
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captw Member
Joined: Apr 20, 2005 Posts: 80 Location: Bailieboro, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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I have one on my M38, but have it mounted on the bumper just inside the right headlight...I don't find it so ditracting there...W _________________ Wilf Alexander
R.R.#1 Bailieboro, Ontario
Canada
1952 M38CDN F-100822 CAR 52-31153
1953 M100CDN 1104 CAR 53-71157
1953 M37CDN
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(2) 1945 Dodge D3/4 WP/APT |
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BBDE Member
Joined: Mar 05, 2008 Posts: 78 Location: Berlin Germany
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Hello, I am not so new here on this board but this will be my first posting.
This picture I think was not taken at Tempelhof Central Airport.After the Berlin Airlift 1949 until 1954 the Air Force 7350th Base Complement Squadron served on TCA. The Bumper markings are different. In Berlin we do not have those hills like in the background of this picture. Looks more than Japan or Korea.
The Ford Mutt`s used for the wall patrolīs where the only trucks together with the Willys MB and Ford GPW after the war I know with wire cutters in Berlin. The M38 and M38A1 do not.
sincerely
Frank
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whydahdvr Member
Joined: Jul 18, 2008 Posts: 643 Location: Melrose, MA and Santa Fe, NM
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Got to thinking about this use of wire cutters on jeeps. I wondered if the North Koreans ever used this method, stringing wire or cable across the roads during the Korean War. Any one know? It would be interesting to learn if wire cutters on vehicles were still needed/used during the Korean War.
In Iraq we had issues with this still (as of 2010), trying to take out the turret gunner. The Haji's would leave wire dangling strung under bridge overpasses, especially at night but also during the day when you pass out of the sunlight. We didn't use wire cutters but had our turret gunners in eye-ball defilade as SOP. That way they were at or below the level of the turret armor. |
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doughboy Member
Joined: Jun 19, 2011 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:47 am Post subject: |
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My Dad served in Korea (1951). I heard him speak of the wire cutter mounted on his jeep. So they were without doubt used in this era also. |
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Phil4280 Member
Joined: Aug 06, 2011 Posts: 111 Location: Brisbane Australia
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 2:56 am Post subject: |
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I know Australian Army Landrovers had them fitted in sth Vietnam
Phil... _________________ Ex Aust Army Engineer ;
M3 Stuart Lt tank,1942 C8A HUW, Ex mil Landrovers,1ton Humber & Austin Champ, Mk1 Ferret scoutcar,trailers & Miltary radios.
Current projects:- M606A3 and 1958 Landrover 106mm RCL gun buggy
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16358 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 8:57 am Post subject: |
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The principal jeep during the Korean War 1950 thru 1953 was the WWII MB/GPW. M38's were not introduced to Korea until August 1952 (M38A1 introduction was JUL 53 two months before the Armistice) and were in the majority of cases kept at higher headquarters due to their being 24 volt required additional logistics support. In all likelihood the wire cutter's use on an M38 would have been extremely rare. Since the M38 served very little in Vietnam and even those that did they were mostly the odd vehicle and usually already owned by the S. Viet. Army. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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