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M38A1 Wiper Vacuum Line Routing

 
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Deino
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: M38A1 Wiper Vacuum Line Routing Reply with quote

After having a blast at the MVPA convention in Evansville, it seems I forgot to take note (and pictures) of the wiper system on the M38A1 Embarassed . What I need is either a good diagram or photo of how the vacuum tubing routes to the wiper motors. My M38A1's lines are all screwed up. I just know enough and have seen just enough in blury/pixelated images to know mine aren't routed correctly. Looks like I've got too much hose. So if anyone can post either a diagram or good, representative photo, I'd much appreciate it.

Thanks all!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Wes. Just as I thought, mine's all screwed up. It has about 2 more hoses than necessary. I don't know how they managed that.
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1952 M38 (MC56474, 33 108M HQ6)
1953 M38A1 (MD54216, 40-I-160I B-35)
1954 M170 (MD-A10513)
1964 M416 1/4 Ton Trailer (35-138F CT-12)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The correct hose is 7/32" ID.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Wes,
I have the same questions, but your pictures from 2009 are not up anymore. Any chance you can re-post those?
Thanks,
Nate
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were links to my old "Mypicgallery.com" account. Here's the link to my M38A1 mjeeps photo album with the A1 wiper system photos.

http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album482&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just rebuild my fuel pump fuel and vacuum.I have installed all the hoses,valves etc from one side of the vacuum that goes to the vavle cover and manifold.From the other side i just connected a hose and run it to the on-off valve and to the wipers.will this harm the vacuum side of the pump?because there is no air flow when the wiper valve is closed.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably not but if you are running the stock 24V military distributor and coil you really need to install the wiper "T" fitting and route the vent line from it to the distributor port and from the distributor's other posrt to the intake crossover. This serves two purposes. It uses vacuum to suck explosive ionized gasses from the distributor and two coils coil which increases coil life.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:22 am    Post subject: hose length Reply with quote

Wes, or anyone, could you provide a measurement of the hose from the " t" fitting to the wiper valve? Is there a regulator located at the " t" fitting?
Sorry to ask this but I'm working on the windshield/ wipers here at home and the A1 is 5 hours away. I would like to make the windshield ready to install once complete.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The IPL calls out 55" of 7/32" ID wiper hose from under the hood to the valve on the windshield. I put the length around 42" (running direct from "T" to valve) - 50" (using a clamp high on the firewall). Hard measurements of the various lengths found on everyone's jeep should give you a dozen or so different lengths to figure from.

The wiper "T" under the hood divides manifold vacuum between the wipers to the left and the distributor vent line to the right. The right side of the "T" has an 0.040 orifice in it to reduce suction to the distributor. The wiper side has no restriction or any other kind of regulator. just the 55" hose to the valve on the windshield which is the wiper air regulating valve.


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