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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll bet the color has something to do with that! Surprised
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it does. Mine will hopefully be matching it very soon
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a small bit of information guys.
What are called valve stem protectors, are not really that, but a sleeve to assist in mounting the tube.

WO-A-5987 Sleeve, tire valve mounting, is the MB part number.

It is listed in SNL-G-740 under Group 13, Section 1313 Tires and Tubes.
H014-0520894 Sleeve, Tire valve mounting ( for the valves of 6:00 - 16 tubes, when mounted with bead locks).

G503 crowd calls them protectors also.

So, I don’t see how the M38 left the factory with bead locks or these sleeves if they had a one piece wheel. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hal,

Looks great!

I always thought the valve stem protecors were the metal shells that screw onto the valve stem after the tire was mounted to the rim. The valve stem cap screws on top of the tip of the shell.

I will see if I can post a photo.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark,
The six pilot model m38's had the WWII combat wheel, 6.00x6 tires and tubes, full floater rear and 4:88 gears.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe, those metal shells are the sleeves, Ryan. I do understand they protect the valve stem... just that is was a plus, not the intended application. Why... beats me. Confused

Wes, someone on G503 posted a thread that they were also testing limited slip and locking differentials... any of these pilot models use this?

Oh, V35/U used combat wheels. Did it also have 4.88 and the Spicer 23-2 full floating rear end?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a question for Harold or george. The CJV35's I've seen all had 41/44 rears. I think Willys only toyed with the 23-2 rear for the M38 pilot models because it would have share commonality of parts with the existing MB supply system. The military may have played a role if the technical side of procurement had a distrust of the fairly new 41 rear.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CJV-35 used a 41 rear with 5:38 gears.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hal,

What paint did you use? I am Going to be using PPG U.S. Air Force Stratta Blue code # 17634
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used Gillespie USAF Strata Blue - 25045 from Rapco... Mixed 2:1 with thinner and 8:1 with hardener... Per the instructions on the AJP site for paint and hardener can...

We used a HVLP gun and was able to do it in 100 degree weather (Benifit of living in OKlahoma)... Next time I will use Xylene for thinner as it dries much faster and is cheaper...

Hope this helps...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am hoping the PPG is a pretty close match. It is $68 a gallon but I dont have to pay for hazmat shipping of $30 on top of what is already charged for shipping. I figure it is about the same price per gallon then. The only nice thing with maybe going with the paint you went with I can get it in spray cans which could come in handy for some of the small parts.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have had my local paint supllier put any color I or he has in bulk into spray bombs for me locally. I do it often for zinc-chromate primer on aircraft to get away from the hazard shping rates.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know if the local place can put it in spray bombs. They can mix a gallon for me without any problems however.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ordered some flaps and got them in to day. I placed one on a wheel to see how it fits. It sure is a sloppy fit. It is for a 16inch wheel but fits really loose.

I thought the flap was supposed to be sort of a snug fit on the wheel such as the rubber band on a bicycle wheel.

I tried beating the tire onto the wheel with a rubber mallet. Does not work for me.

I will take one to a tire shop tomorrow and let them do it.


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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken,

I took mine to a tire shop and watched them do it - it only takes a few minutes.

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