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POWER TAKE-OFF ON M38A1 NOT FOR WINCH

 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:20 pm    Post subject: POWER TAKE-OFF ON M38A1 NOT FOR WINCH Reply with quote

My 1953 M38A1 came with a power take-off that has a rear-facing output shaft. A radio had been mounted on the jeep at some time, but there is no hole through the floorboard for a v-belt to connect to an auxilliary generator. Herm the Overdrive Guy couldn't identify it. Can anyone out there identify this PTO? It's the 3rd to last photo in my photo gallery (page 9). Thanks, David


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David,

Perhaps from a French Hotchkiss or Dutch NEKAF PTO setup?

Can you give me the dimensions of the tub mount rubber I outlined in your photo?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:10 am    Post subject: STRANGE PTO - BODY MOUNT PAD DIMENSIONS Reply with quote

Wes, the glued-on pad is 100 mm X 40 mm x 5 mm. David
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you David. Was there a pad on the left side as well?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:51 am    Post subject: BODY PAD LEFT SIDE - NO SIGN OF ONE Reply with quote

Wes, I have since repainted the frame, but from looking at it and the photos I took, there is no sign of a corresponding pad on the left-hand side. That area was, however, severely dmaged by the fire, so I cannot exclude it enequivocally. BTW, I am pretty sure that this jeep had previously been dismantled because the body mounting bolts I found were all stainless steel metric thread. David
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject: pto Reply with quote

It looks like the part that turns the drive to face forward is missing. I have a few pics that show an M38A1 PTO and if you look it looks like an additional part should be there bolted to that output shaft and it directs the power to the front through a short shaft. I have 3 pics in headcase photo album page 9 page 2. Hope this helps you! Not sure but just my opinion. You may ask Rob love in maple leaf up forum he's a guru for these items!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That rear facing PTO drive was not a US or Canada issue item.

The 105 series PTO was used in both the US and Canada for ther 50R series winch.


This is the 105 series PTO correct to the US and Canadain 50R miltary winch system.
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