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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:35 pm    Post subject: Help on removing a frozen part Reply with quote

I had a winch frame fabricated to match the military one, but bolt up to my Ramsey 200L PTO winch. The only problem now, Is I need to pull the clutch brake lever off the shaft and reverse it so it fits in the winch. It's stepped outward, and I need to flip it so it is stepped inward. The lever slides on a metal shaft, and is secured with a screw. The screw had long since fallen out, yet the lever is still stuck on the shaft. I have used Kano oil, but to no avail. It looks like this
and I need it to look like this
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where is the set screw in those photos? I see none nor do I see any hole in the handle for a set screw. I do see what may look like a roll pin that is inserted near one edge.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These aren't mine. I have a threaded space for a screw on the right underside of the lever
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not uncommon for them to be welded to the shaft by age and rust. Looks like you will have to lift the winch out of the angle steel frame so you can get a puller on the handle.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:20 pm    Post subject: Manual Reply with quote

Found a manual which I believe fits your application:

http://www.easternwrecker.com/images/RamseyManuals/Ramsey%20200%20or%20H-200%20Lever%20Winch.pdf

Page 19 shows that it is indeed a setscrew coupled with a conventional key.

Remember the old saying: "Don't force it, get a bigger hammer"

(Wes, you might want to save this manual on the site)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Already have the Ramsey 200/H200 series lever winch manual in PDF. Thanks anyway. I hope Dan downloads and uses it!! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see it and I already downloaded it, thanks. I didn't think the forum would have something about civilian PTOs! Once I have managed to flip the clutch lever on the shaft, I can see that the shaft is still too long. Can I simply cut the shaft?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To a certain limit I suppose you can trim the shaft. Why not correct the error in your mounting frame instead of buggering up the winch?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can, and I am sure that the new frame will mount the winch a little better, but the shaft is still longer than the others I have seen. It sticks out a couple of inches on the other side from the lever.
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