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herb
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 Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:25 am Post subject: m 38 front springs |
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| need both front springs for a 38. |
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RPW
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| M416 trailer springs are the same spring. Saturn Surplus had NOS springs for sale a while ago for cheap money. |
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Bobber
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| I have front and back from 1952 m38 that I'm replacing with new ones. |
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wesk
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:40 am Post subject: |
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RPW have you actually fitted a pair of the 416 springs to the front of a M38? I am curious. Their ordnance part numbers aren't even close ORD# 7328358 for the 416 spring and ORD# 7697599 for the M38.
When searching for each units FSN or NSN the results are:
M416 - 2510-00-732-8358,cancelled -> replaced by 2510010587420
M38 - 2510-00-769-7599 Alternate 2510-00-293-4119
It appears that the main difference is the M38 7/16" pivot bolt vs the M416 3/8" pivot bolt.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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hillbilly21
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:28 pm Post subject: SPGS |
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WHATS OUR LOCATION THERE HERB ??
I HAVE A FEW SETS ALONG WITH M38A1 NOS ONES ..SHIPPING MIGHT KILL THE DEAL ..PM ME HERE ON IT |
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RPW
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Wes, No I have not mounted them. I have researched the issue via off road web sites that also involve trailer rebuilds. There are numerous references to installing front flat fender springs into trailers. I got into this when I was looking to buy a M416 that needed new springs. I ended up finding a nicer one instead. Couldn't the bolt size difference be easily accommodated by changing the bushing?
I also did a quick check of Saturn's site, but they no longer list the NOS springs for the M416 (just the M101 now available). |
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wesk
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Most of those references are about using the 8 leaf MB springs on WWII Bantam and Willys & etc. trailers.
Anything can be adapted to anything. Just depends on time and money. I would suspect that the spring rates (load ability) are not the same either. The part numbers and NSN's for the two different springs never cross to each other and I suspect for good reason.
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45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php |
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