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M38a1/M170 Ventilation valve

 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:53 pm    Post subject: M38a1/M170 Ventilation valve Reply with quote

Hello, I have a 1955 M170, is it suppose to have a ventilation valve on left side of engine or a 2" hose. Mine has a 2" hose and didnt know if it was a field fix?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All M38's, M38A1's & M170's came with a PCV valve on the left side valve cover area. Only the early M38A1's (52-53) and USMC contract M38A1's came with the fording valves. Later were sometimes added and earlier were usually removed and substituted with a short hose. But the PCV valve (Positive crankcase ventilation) stayed on all. If it was removed by a not so smart prior owner then get one and re-install it.


Most A1's look like this with the PCV valve still there and the fording valve gone.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect, this is exactly the info i needed.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a different subject, where did u get that 6" flexible fuel line. I could use one.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, which direction should PCV go..
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the original plumbing on the 52 & 53 M38A1's.



Here's a new in the crate 1962 issue replacement engine:



In the image below from TM 9-8014 Fig 52 dated April 1955, you see the short piece of rubber hose instead of the fording valve.



In this image below from TM 9-8015-1 Fig 4 dated Mar 54, you see the fording valve is included.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole system, both standard crankcase ventilation and the fording valve systems are explained in great detail in TM 9-8015-1 chapter 6.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bl5211a - flexible fuel lines are available from a number of MV parts suppliers. You could try Midwest Military.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks..

Here's how they ended up:




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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also take your old line to any car parts dealer that can use the printed catalog and they can locate the same or close enough with a female 5/16" steel tube fitting on one end and a male 5/16" steel =tube fitting on the other end.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks..
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