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jimm
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There is another thread repair product that we use at work that is a little friendlier than Heli-Coils because it doesn't require the special Heli-Coil tap. It's called Keensert http://www.afscamloc.net/prod3.php?lang=en. You drill and tap the hole with the next larger standard tap, thread in the Keensert, then drive in the locking keys. They sell installation tools that make it easy, but you can do it without them. McMaster-Carr sells them, including a Mil-Spec version if you want to be 100% appropriate  They list them as "Key-Locking Inserts for Metals". A 5/16-18 insert sells for $1.62 each, or 7 inserts plus installation tool for $20.82. The Heli-Coil inserts are cheaper each, but the tools cost more.
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aforests
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wesk
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ChuckW
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Speedi-sleeve time!
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ChuckW
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Wes, I'm sure you know the old trick of "tightening the garter spring" on lip seals? Was standard practice years ago on Cat water pump seals!
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wesk
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Yes. Tightening the spring on a new seal can work occasionally but a lot depends on the depth of the groove. It becomes a game of horse shoes and hand grenades and I feel that is really a waste of time and money when there is a fix we know will work and get the job done in one shot instead of two or three.
The most common sealant used is RTV. But any quality assembly sealant meant for use around petroleum products will work.
Before you consider removing those bearings please read the manual I provided you a link to!
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aforests
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Left yoke is from the back and right yoke is from the front. It appears both are the same in all measurements. The only difference I can see is the rear one has a large plate that attaches and the front has a small banged up rim near the base.
It appears the front yoke has a different part number than the rear yoke. Has anyone ordered these before, and if so what is the difference between them?
I'm going to head over to the parts store today to see what the cost is to sleeve them both. If it is close to the $45 most places want for replacement yokes, i'm going to go with new instead of sleeves...
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Aaron
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RICKG
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Aaron before you buy new let me check my parts stash-I may have a pair of serviceable units.
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RICKG
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Aaron, i've got the rear transfer case yoke only-sorry. It is however in ready to install condition-no groove, no kidding. Shipping would eat some $$ as it wont go small flat rate box. Heck if you were any closer I'd swing by your place after work and fit it (the adult beverage is on you of course).
PM me if you want to take it any further.. I'll shoot a couple of pics this evening..
Did you have any joy at the machine shop concerning sleeves??
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aforests
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Rick,
Sounds good. I sent you a PM. Heck, i'm only about 900 miles away from you. You'd probably want to drive something other than your jeep though! Our low tonight will be -12 with -23 wind chill.
I haven't been to the machine shop yet as was waiting to hear back from you first. I did look online, and the sleeves I would need run about $20-30 each plus shipping. They are not cheap!
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