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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:34 pm    Post subject: resistor 8710856 or equal Reply with quote



need the resistor 8710856 or equal as shown on the wire schematic.. any ideas??
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like 5 Ohm, Rick:

http://www.jatonkam35s.com/M135-211/TB9-2855-40.pdf

Looks like a Big Daddy, maybe 50 watt?

http://www.eriksmilitarysurplus.com/reforheblmol.html

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://m.ebay.com/itm/391024488468?nav=SEARCH
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx Brian! Looks like you're on the mark w/50W, 5 OHM.
Eric's site references pt# 870856 and application.
Ebay site references only 50w, 5 ohm.

Both appear to be identical with Ebay price being 1/2 of Eric's.

In either case it appears a mounting bracket will need to be fab'd
to secure it..
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rick!
It may get pretty warm, but a couple of wire clips for fenders
and the like might work.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:20 am    Post subject: Ohms Law Reply with quote

If you were to assume a dead short in place of the motor, Ohms law for power is e(sq)/r, or (24*24)/50, indicating a worst case of 11.5 watts dissipation in the resistor.

With the motor instead of a dead short, it would be much less, so I believe a 20 watt resistor would be enough. Since it generates a lot of heat, you might consider placing it in the airstream somehow to protect it (and you).
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your interest here, Bill. The part# spec'd for this app is for the
50W 5 ohm variety. How much heat are we talkin here??
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The temps will vary based on location of the resistor, airflow around it and season. It shouldn't get any hotter than uncomfortable to touch. Mount it just like the kit instructions state using the type clamps specified in the kit.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:04 pm    Post subject: Comparison Reply with quote

Wes (as usual) is correct! The older Christmas tree lights (parallel string) were around 7-1/2 watts, as well as those little night lights (c-7 bulb). About what I'd expect with a good motor. As an aside, the motor with no-load uses very little power, add the fan blade and the associated air flow resistance in the pipes, and the current increases. I only mentioned the 20w resistor because it's going to be a LOT cheaper. mouser.com shows:
5 ohm-50w, p/n 71-HL50-06Z-5, $13.10
5 ohm-20w, p/n 71-HLW20-A1Z-5 $ 3.12 plus shipping.
Radio Shack lists a p/n 25W5D1 (25w/5.1 ohm) for $1.21.

Seems to beat the $18 one!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 8710856 50w 5ohm I ordered was $17 bucks for (2) shipped from the e-bay offer. I purchased an extra-I like to have a spare in case I goof up..
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bretto will buy it when you convince him to convert....


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