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Rockytop Member
Joined: Dec 30, 2014 Posts: 28 Location: KNOXVILLE TENNESSEE
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:02 am Post subject: BUMPERETTES |
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Hey guys trying to find out some info on bumperettes for my M38A1 My jeep was missing a few pieces such as fuel tank, windshield frame and bumperettes. I have found the tank and windshield frame and they are in route. just wandering if the bumperettes are all the same , before I go and start looking.
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Martin _________________ MARTIN 1953 M38A1 |
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4x4M38 Member
Joined: May 30, 2014 Posts: 3447 Location: Texas Hill Country
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RICKG Member
Joined: Aug 31, 2010 Posts: 1741 Location: SO IDAHO
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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I cant be for certain but I believe theyre the same except the earlier MB ones have smaller mounting holes. I thought there was an earlier post somewhere here but I cant didn't find it. _________________ keep 'em rollin'
RICKG MC 51986 DOD 01-52, '50 CJ3a |
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16256 Location: Wisconsin
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4x4M38 Member
Joined: May 30, 2014 Posts: 3447 Location: Texas Hill Country
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Is there any hope in this wide, wide world of straightening them if they are indeed spring steel?
Not only did my boy Bubba cut out some of one's top side on the right one, but of course backed repeatedly into something with the left one.
Musty have been a seeing thing because the entire left rear of the jeep is a disaster.
I'm afraid of unbolting the left one as it may decide to leave the confines of the county in which it resides, or perhaps at minimum deform the owner's arm or digits with whatever tool is being used to loosen the mounting bolts.
Back to the post. It sounds like externally the MB/GPW bumperettes are identical to the M38/A1 jobs, except for the mounting holes. _________________ Brian
1950 M38
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16256 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing I posted should lead you to believe they are in anyway identical to either of the other two. All three have different part numbers. The only matching data is the bolt diameter of the last two. Also the WWII units were mounted with the extended edge up versus M38/M38A1/M170/CJ all extended edge down. If you look at the WWII units you will see the transition from the extended edge back to the side is curved whereas the M38/M38A1/M170 are angular.
Yes they are tempered and extremely difficult to straighten damage. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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Rockytop Member
Joined: Dec 30, 2014 Posts: 28 Location: KNOXVILLE TENNESSEE
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys that answers my questions, Brian I couldn't help but laugh at your story of Bubba. Wes you seem to be an endless book of knowledge on these vehicles , thanks for sharing it. also Wes can you give me access to start posting pics of my jeep project.
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Martin _________________ MARTIN 1953 M38A1 |
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DanS Member
Joined: Jun 17, 2012 Posts: 159 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:33 am Post subject: |
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They are hard to straighten. I used a local old time blacksmith shop that also specializes in large saw mill blade restorations. They worked magic on my GPWs bumperettes. They straightened them, then re heat treated them to retain the temper.
Dan _________________ Dan Schultz
MD20035 9/1952
MC70324 dod 6/52
GPW 14944 dod 4/10/42
K38 Linemans Trailer 4/43
M100 Trailer 01177488 dod 8/51 |
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oilleaker1 Member
Joined: May 14, 2009 Posts: 971 Location: South Dakota
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Both mine were squashed inwards and off to one side. I put a sizzors jack inside them while still on the frame. Jacked them out and worked them over with a sledge hammer. They came back pretty good. They are indeed tough, but they can be fixed. Do not unbolt them and try it. Enjoy. John |
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Bretto Member
Joined: Nov 24, 2010 Posts: 1390 Location: Orem, UT
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Watch out that you don't end up buying M151 bumperettes, they look similar but are more squared off at the ends. I think I heard the will bolt on, and work just fine but if your looking for originality, pass on them. I think it was Peter DeBella that has those in stock for a good price if you want to go that route. _________________ Brett
'51 M38
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