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Fish Member
Joined: Jun 18, 2015 Posts: 8 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:38 pm Post subject: Frame #'s on left side frame horn |
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Couple of questions on my new project hoping someone can help me out. There are some numbers on the left side of my frame on the vertical outboard horn next to the bumper. Not finding a lot of info. They are as follows.
871-4401 S476
28089670
Both body and dash tag are as follows
Ser# 28477
Engine is
MC34570
There are some things that don't line up on this jeep but appear to be original. Delivery date is 8-51. Is it possible this is an M38E1? What do the frame #s mean? Sure it is a military frame it has the M reinforcements but the front axle has a civil mount for the steering not used and the windshield does not have a vent. Both have OD paint when sanded?? |
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16241 Location: Wisconsin
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Fish Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Wes. I read somewhere in 51 they made an experimental m 38 based on a cj 4? What do you mean by frame inner panel numbers? |
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TomM Moderator
Joined: Apr 18, 2005 Posts: 458 Location: Rhode Island
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:41 am Post subject: Front axle |
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Do you mean the front axle has a pitman arm bracket welded in place? That would be a WWII MB/GPW characteristic. If yes you will want to confirm what ratios are installed in front and rear differentials. WWII jeeps did not share axle types with the M38
The M38 windshield does not have a vent. |
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skyjeep50 Member
Joined: Feb 20, 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:34 am Post subject: |
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The windshield vent is in place on a M38 as it was on a CJ3A - its just been screwed shut by brackets. _________________ 1951 M38 |
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Fish Member
Joined: Jun 18, 2015 Posts: 8 Location: California
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the reply's!!! Front axle is suspect for sure. Tearing into it left side has a removable drum and the right side does not. I checked the ratio the old fashion way by turning the wheel 2 times and counting the rotations of the prop shaft and it was 4.6 turns. Not good. Have not done the rear as it is all apart trying to fix the brakes so I can give it a once over on a road trip before I make a restoration plan. Rear has a tag. On it isW43. Will post what I find. Trying to figure out how to post pics. Overall it seems pretty correct minus these issues. Engine date code is same month as build date but head is MB. Plan is to get it driving and stopping to figure out what is needed. No rust anywhere which is blowing my mind. Harness has been smoked by a poor 12 v conversion. |
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wesk Site Administrator
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Nailed it. Front is GPW F script 4.88:1. Received M38 reference guide today and the rear is correct for the jeep and 5.38:1. W 43/8. I guess I need to find the correct front axle |
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