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Joined: Jul 02, 2011 Posts: 134 Location: Milton, Ontario
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:09 pm Post subject: Gas tank anti-squeek |
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There are several pieces of 1" wide anti-squeak under the M38 gas tank. Can anyone tell me what type of material and thickness? I have had no luck in tracing the part numbers to get a better description however the Canadian M38/M38A1 parts book says that when supply is exhausted then to use a 1" textile webbing, herringbone twill, olive green, 75oz/yd, 0.040" to 0.050 " thick, mildew resistant. Maybe this webbing is similar to the NOS anti-squeak ......... Brian. |
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Bretto Member
Joined: Nov 24, 2010 Posts: 1390 Location: Orem, UT
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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I just used some 1" wide 1/8" thick strips of fabric reinforced rubber belting cut into lengths as needed. Don't get too technical, no one will ever see the stuff. I would stay away from a webbing material or anything that can hold moisture if you know what I'm saying. _________________ Brett
'51 M38
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies and links to CJ info and past discussions. I tried searching but as you can in the header I spelled anti-squeak incorrectly. Also I did not see any comment on the thickness or composition of the documented anti- squeak in the CJ's. .... Brian |
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keats Member
Joined: Apr 14, 2005 Posts: 332 Location: Middletown Ct
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16225 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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That was an interesting post. I can say this about that NOS strap. I would never use that strap with those staples in it on my very difficult to find and expensive M38 tank! I would glue that liner strip to the strap. It surprises me that it came with the staples. My tank straps have no staple holes in them.
Your friend's NOS
My originals _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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Joined: Jul 02, 2011 Posts: 134 Location: Milton, Ontario
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Thanks to all for the information. I have one of the NOS gas tank straps with the black impregnated fibrous anti-squeak which is stapled to the strap.(I have also seen the staple holes on a nice American 5/52 M38) The width is 1" and the thickness is 1/16" . I strongly suspect this is the same anti-squeak material used under the fuel tank. |
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wesk Site Administrator
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:54 am Post subject: |
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The several shades of OD mean only that it was repainted several times by someone. Original straps installed at the factory will have OD 2030 on them first. Subsequent new off the shelf straps installed in the field will have various OD colors. And both may have been repainted many times. Mine had several coats of various OD on them before I painted them Strata Blue. _________________ Wes K
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:54 am Post subject: |
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I was looking at Keats links. One poster mentioned Homasote.
I would not recommend this product for an outdoor/wet
application as it is a paper based product that swells when wet,
shrinks with age and breaks down after being soaked.
Hidden behind a vapor barrier and concrete or exterior siding
and used in a similar fashion as Sheetrock, it will last decades.
Set some outside in the weather and you get a soft, wet mess
that breaks down into a paper/cardboard consistency. I believe it
would be a disaster under a tank.
Just my two cents.
Brian _________________ Brian
1950 M38
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:59 am Post subject: |
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The choice of materials for this topic was bantered around many times in the past and the usual final agreement was to use thin rubber or neoprene and lay it out under the tank to insure it did not trap water. Trying to go original with this item is much like re-installing wood inside your hat channels. You end up causing the same corrosion that brought the jeep to where it is now. In the interest of safety and/or longevity we often must choose modern materials or parts over the older parts and this choice rarely causes an issue with a display jeep's judging. If it will cause an issue can be determined by discussing it with the judges before hand. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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