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M38 Vacuum Pump
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 1:38 pm
by Mike_B
I have the dual Vac/Fuel pump on my M38, but don't have the wiper motors installed. Is it ok to cap the vacuum lines at the pump until I get the wipers installed to make it quieter or should I leave it uncapped? I'm running it uncapped now but it's pretty noisy.
Thanks,
Mike B

Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 9:14 pm
by wesk
Are you also not using the stock military distributor?
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 12:15 am
by Mike_B
That is correct Wes, The PO converted it to 12 volt.
The pump currently isn't doing anything other than making noise, it's not connected to anything.
I guess capping the suction side would be no different than having the wiper motor switch turned off now that I think about it. What about the pressure side? Any harm in capping it also?
Mike B
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:38 am
by wesk
If you still are using the waterproof military distributor you should still allow the vacuum side of the pump to function. The sealed distributor does not breathe (vent) well on it's own. The ionized gases that can build up inside are explosive and must be forcibly vented. That is why the vacuum side of your pump is plumbed to the wiper "T" and then from that "T" to the distributor housing and the wipers.
You do not mention your fording system plumbing but that plays an active role in what you are doing with the vacuum side of the pump as well.
If you intend to eventually get the vac wipers installed and working then I suggest simply capping the "T" at the leg that leads to the wipers and not disturb the plumbing itself.
Another issue is by plugging up the vacuum pump's inlet and outlet the next time you fire the engine up the vacuum pump will rupture it's own diaphragm trying to do it's designed job, pumping air.
Study these vac and vent system illustrations and if you wish post some similar photos of your current configuration.
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 1:54 pm
by Mike_B
Wes, thanks for all the diagrams.,
My M38 is a driver and the PO set it up more like a CJ-5. It has a non-military 12v Autolite distributor with no vent connection. The transfer case has a mushroom vent, the bell housing vent port is plugged, the PCV is connected from the side cover to the intake with the check valve in line but no valve. There are no lines run for the vacuum system at all, but I do have the carb vent piped to the air intake tube. Maybe I should replace the Dual Pump with Civvy fuel pump and just not worry with it...
I'm on the fence about wipers period, I never drive in the rain and if I do put wipers on at some point they may be electric.
Mike B

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:40 pm
by wesk
Good choice. Sell the dual gas/vac pump to a needy M38 owner and stick a standard single action gas pump for a CJ on it.