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Frans Member
Joined: Jul 04, 2005 Posts: 20 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:36 am Post subject: New member from South Africa |
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Hi guys,
I am the new kid on the block and would like to introduce myself. (I see a couple of familiar names from the G503 forum). My name is Frans Lategan and I live in the world famous small town of Vryburg in the North West province of South Africa.
I am an engineer in the Department of agriculture, conservation, environment and tourism and I am responsible for cattle- and game ranch development and planning.
My hobbies are jeeps, jeeps, jeeps and hunting. I have a professional hunters and outfitters license, so if you are interested in hunting in Africa I can do it legally.
I have a couple of CJ2A jeeps and a week ago I bought a Nekaf M38A1 that I want to restore. So you will see a lot of me on the technical page, asking a lot of stupid questions.
This is how the Nekaf looks:
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Ryan_Miller Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 03, 2005 Posts: 1634 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Frans,
Looks like you have a good solid jeep.
Also sounds like you have a very interesting job.
Thanks for the pictures.
_________________ Ryan Miller
MVPA # 22010 |
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scar Member
Joined: Apr 13, 2005 Posts: 37
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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looks like you have a good start, congrads. yea, sounds like the best job to me. _________________ keep on jeepin |
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Frans Member
Joined: Jul 04, 2005 Posts: 20 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Thanks guys,
Yes I do have an interesting job. It is basically land use planning and the planning and designing of conservation- and utilization structures to ensure sustainable utilization of the natural recourses.
The jeep looks good from the outside, but after stripping out all the fiberglass and bondo it looks different. I hope I did not saddle a horse that I can't ride!! The floors are real bad!! I took some pictures of the big bad patches.
This came of the tub!!
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Bob_C Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 03, 2005 Posts: 271 Location: Chester County, PA
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Hi Frans!
Welcome!
Lots of jeeps look like that after 50+ years of corrosion. Mine looks about the same as yours actually. These are pretty easy to repair - after all, the military designed them for simplicity. _________________ Bob Collins
1954 M38A1 MD79056 |
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Ryan_Miller Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 03, 2005 Posts: 1634 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:48 am Post subject: |
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There are several small companies that make replacement panels.
Jeep panels plus out of Maine
And a couple of others I can't seem to think of right at the moment.
Can you guys help me out here! _________________ Ryan Miller
MVPA # 22010 |
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GIJOE290 Member
Joined: Apr 13, 2005 Posts: 265 Location: Altamonte Sprgs, FL 32714
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Frans, you're right. From the topside she looks pretty good. Picutres can be deceiving, I suppose.
BTW, You work fast! _________________ David M.
08/1953 M38A1
Serial #56535
"The Green Goat"
Restoration Begins Summer 2005! ...Er Maybe 2006? 2010? 2015? 202...? |
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Jeff_H Member
Joined: Apr 16, 2005 Posts: 62 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome Frans,
I am in the process of re-building as well and have documented it at:
http://www.m38jeepproject.com/
Buying replacement panels is a good way to go, however if you like a challenge you can do like I did and buy 18 gauge steel sheet and repair the body yourself. I have not yet run up against something I haven't been able to fix (although some of the things I fixed, I probably should have purchased a replacement and saved the agrevation).
cheers
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Frans Member
Joined: Jul 04, 2005 Posts: 20 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:18 am Post subject: |
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I have thought about ordering replacement panels and I do have MD Juan's price list. The problem is time. It will take months before I have it. And of course our currency (Rands) is worth nothing. Buying things in US$ can set you back a bit. But after reading through your posts I have new hope. All (or most of) the bad patches are on straight panels.
Jeff, your site is excellent. After looking through it my hopes are high. My tub is not much worse than yours.
Just one question: I am not familiar with sheet metal thickness in gauge. We have 1mm and 1.6mm available (1.2mm is available on special order). The floors look like 1.2mm to me. Will it be a problem if I use 1.6mm instead of 1.2mm? What is the thickness of the different gauges of steel?
Thanks
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Frans Member
Joined: Jul 04, 2005 Posts: 20 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:24 am Post subject: |
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I found the (STEEL) material thickness tabel:
Gauge (inches) (mm)
3 .2391 6.073
4 .2242 5.695
5 .2092 5.314
6 .1943 4.935
7 .1793 4.554
8 .1644 4.176
9 .1495 3.797
10 .1345 3.416
11 .1196 3.030
12 .1046 2.657
13 .0897 2.278
14 .0747 1.897
15 .0673 1.709
16 .0598 1.519
17 .0538 1.367
18 .0478 1.214
19 .0418 1.062
20 .0359 0.912
21 .0329 0.836
22 .0299 0.759
23 .0269 0.683
24 .0239 0.607
25 .0209 0.531
It seems that the 1.6mm sheet is between 15 and 16 gauge.
Do you guys think it will look bad if I use it on the floor?
(Sorry, this is getting technical now?)
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Jeff_H Member
Joined: Apr 16, 2005 Posts: 62 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:23 am Post subject: |
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It should be fine, maybe a bit heavy to work with some tools. Many of my air tools and the sheet metal brake say they are good to 16 gauge but they really work hard at that thickness.
If you are doing a full replacement of a panel the difference shouldn't matter. If you are joining it to an existing panel it still won't be bad. Try and put your seams someplace they won't be seen like under the tool box or gas tank.
Jeff
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OKCM38CDN Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Frans,
Welcome to the group. I just finished a year of working on the tub for my M-38 CDN... I was not able to get 18ga steel easily, however the school where I was taking an adult class on welding had 16ga available. I replaced a spot on the drivers side and both floors without any problems... using 16ga steel sheet.
See tub photos at OKC M38 CDN Progress...
Take your time and do a little bit at a time... it pays off.
Hope This helps... |
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