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M606 or M38a1 Rims?

 
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Luis
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: M606 or M38a1 Rims? Reply with quote

Two types of Rims arrived at Argentina with the M38A1 and M606. One it known by you (that of the small hole) and the other is the one that can see in the album.know this model of rim, in which other vehicles places.greetings
You can see in Photo Gallery Member Album Luis

Dos tipos de llanta llegaron a Argentina con los M38A1 y M606. Una es la conocida por ustedes(la del pequeño agujero) y la otra es la que pueden ver en el album.Conocen este modelo de llanta,en que otros vehiculos puede haber sido colocada.Saludos
La puedes ver en Galeria de Fotos Album miembro Luis
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luis,

The rim you have pictures of looks very similar to the M38A1 rim, but I am not sure that it has the saftey bead.

Many civilian rims did not have the saftey bead.

I do not know about the wheels issued to the M606, but it would not suprise me if that rim is from an M606.

I noticed it has an ORD number. That should make it easier to trace back to its original application.

Do you have the parts manual for the M606? Someone here should have one.






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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks by the answer Ryan.
The Argentine soldiers mixed all the rims and we do not have the certainty of which goes in each Jeep.
The rim of the small hole has the logo KelseyHayes and the date **/62. All the M38a1 are of the year 62 and they have correlative series number.
Different happens with the M606. They arrived in departures separated during the years 1965 / 1966 /1967 / 1968
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 2 of that type rim on my M-38, they are the ones with the ridges between the lug holes... I thought they wre a civilian rim put on by a PO... maybe replacements placed there by the Canadian Military...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On another note, The M606 series used the civvy parts manual and service manual but had supplements published for the military for the military specific stuff. I would imagine that evry M606 part even if procured from the civvy manual had a ORD # assigned to it. It would really be nice to stumble across a ORD 9 or similar document for the M606 series.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought mine were wrong too.

My '52 M38A1 came with all 5 wheels had the ridges. All the tires look like original military tires.

Mine also came with a M606 front bumper.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not believe those wheels were Willys installed before 1960. If your 52 A1 is a factory restored class resto you'll need the earlier wheels.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wesk wrote:
I do not believe those wheels were Willys installed before 1960. If your 52 A1 is a factory restored class resto you'll need the earlier wheels.


I'm only shooting for a motor pool class.

Is it possible they might have been used in the service? I'm alwyas amazed at what Bubba will do to save a few bucks, but I don't think he would keep the military tires and replace the rims with CJ's.

The tires are Cooper Military NDCC, btw.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the 54 Years (thats more than half a century!)_ Shocked ) only God knows who swapped in what. On the average a 52 M38A1 would have been surplused out of the military about 1965 till 1970. So a replacement set of wheels that Willys built in 1960 could have ended up on your A1 before it was surplused out. Or the A1 you have could have been restored 3 times before it got to you and a civvy owner may have installed the current set of wheels. If you're motor pool class then run em! Wink
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