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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject: wanted radio antenna parts Reply with quote

I just bought a prc 10 with am598 for my m38. I need an antenna for it, anybody got one? I will need everything to hook the antenna to the jeep such as the mp 50 and the corner bracket.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most any of the vendors will sell you the MP50.



They may or may not include the Willys Jeep adapter bracket.









When the jeep has no top the use of the vehicle mounted antenna is not necessary. If you choose to use a vehicle mount antenna in addition to the MP50 you'll need:
AB-15/GR Mast Base
AB-24/GR Mast
MS-117A mast
UG-273/U Connector
CG-530/U RF Cable assy.
UG-306/U

TM's
TM 11-285
TM 11-611
TM 11-612
TM 11-5055
TM 11-5820-292-10

Audio accessories you can use are:
H-33(*)/PT Handset
AN/GSA-6 Chest Group
H-63/U Headset-microphone
LS-166/U Dynamic Loudspeaker
M-29/U Microphone
CW-49507 Navy Headset
CX-1334/U Navy Headset Cord



The rest of the radio items can be found at places like Fair Radio http://www.fairradio.com/
or several others:
http://www.softcom.net/users/djstutz/pvtjarheadl1.html
http://www.greenradios.com/oldfam/sets.htm#GRC-3
http://webs.lanset.com/buzz/index1.html



Here's the PRC-10 set description from:
http://www.nj7p.org/cgi-bin/millist2?name=AN%2FPRC-10&mode=normal
Radio Set , AN/PRC-10
JAN Type: AN/PRC-10
Nomenclature: Radio Set
Reference: TM 11-5820-292-XX
NSN: 5820-00-223-5122
Components: RT-176/PRC-10 Receiver-Transmitter, CY-744(*) Battery Case, BA-279/U Battery, AT-271(*)/PRC Antenna, AT-272(*)/PRC Antenna, AB-129/U Antenna Spring, H-33(*)/PT Handset
Weight: 22
Mode: 30F3
Frequency Range: 38-55 MHz
Power Input: A: 1.5, B1: 67.5, B2: 135, C: 6 V from BA-279/U
Power Output: 0.9 W
Number of Channels: Continuous Tuning (Calibration Osc at 2.15 MHz points)
Replaced By: PRC-25
Replaces: BC-1000
Part of: PRC-10
Antenna: AT-271 and AT-272
Description: The PRC-10 is a portable, low-power, frequency-modulated radio set which can be pack-mounted or installed in vehicles to provide voice commumnications over relatively short distances. They can also be used for homing. Provision is made for remote operation and unattended relay operation.
Source: TM 11-5820-292-10, 12 Sep 61
Cost: 307.49 to 533.67
Contract:

Contract Year Manufacturer Quantity
------------------- ---- ----------------- --------
3432-P-52-55 1952 Admiral Corp. ???
15178-P-52-35 1951 RCA ???
23468-P-50-55 1950 Utility Electronics ???


Created: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000
Last Modified: Mon Jul 23 19:07:10 2001

Radio Set , AN/PRC-10A
JAN Type: AN/PRC-10A
Nomenclature: Radio Set
Reference: TM 11-5820-292-XX
NSN: 5820-00-223-5122
Components: RT-176A/PRC-10A Receiver-Transmitter, CY-744(*) Battery Case, BA-279/U Battery, AT-271(*)/PRC Antenna, AT-272(*)/PRC Antenna, AB-129/U Antenna Spring, H-33(*)/PT Handset
Weight: 22
Mode: 30F3
Frequency Range: 38-55 MHz
Power Input: A: 1.5, B1: 67.5, B2: 135, C: 6 V
Power Output: 0.9 W
Number of Channels: Continuous Tuning (Calibration Osc at 2.15 MHz points)
Replaced By: PRC-25
Replaces: BC-1000
Part of: PRC-10A
Antenna: AT-271 and AT-272
Description: The PRC-10A is a portable, low-power, frequency-modulated radio set which can be pack-mounted or installed in vehicles to provide voice commumnications over relatively short distances. They can also be used for homing. Provision is made for remote operation and unattended relay operation.
Source: TM 11-5820-292-10, 12 Sep 61
Cost: 307.49 to 533.67
Contract:

Contract Year Manufacturer Quantity
------------------- ---- ----------------- --------
3432-P-52-55 1952 Admiral Corp. ???
15178-P-52-35 1951 RCA ???
23468-P-50-55 1950 Utility Electronics ???


Created: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000
Last Modified: Mon Jul 23 19:10:53 2001

Amplifier-Power Supply, AM-598/U
JAN Type: AM-598/U
Nomenclature: Amplifier-Power Supply
Reference: TM 11-5055
Part of: PRC-8, PRC-8A, PRC-9, PRC-9A, PRC-10, PRC-10A, PRC-28
Description: The AM-598 is a vibrator-type regulated power supplie and audio amplifier that adapt Radio Set PRC-8(*), PRC-9(*) and PRC-10(*) to vehicular use. If unmodified, this unit can only be used with unlettered radio sets.
Source: TM 11-5820-292-10, 12 Sep 61
Created: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000
Last Modified: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000

Amplifier-Power Supply, AM-598A/U
JAN Type: AM-598A/U
Nomenclature: Amplifier-Power Supply
Reference: TM 11-5055
Part of: PRC-8, PRC-8A, PRC-9, PRC-9A, PRC-10, PRC-10A
Description: The AM-598A is a vibrator-type regulated power supplie and audio amplifier that adapt Radio Set PRC-8(*), PRC-9(*) and PRC-10(*) to vehicular use. This unit contains a switch to be used with lettered and unlettered radio sets.
Source: TM 11-5820-292-10, 12 Sep 61
Created: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000
Last Modified: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000

Battery Case, CY-744
JAN Type: CY-744
Nomenclature: Battery Case
Reference: TM 11-5820-292-10
Weight: 1.5
Part of: PRC-8(*), PRC-9(*), PRC-10(*), PRC-28
Description: The CY-744 holds the BA-279 battery and mounts on the receiver-transmitter.
Source: TM 11-5820-292-10, 12 Sep 61
Created: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000
Last Modified: Mon Jan 15 20:08:27 2001

Battery, BA-279/U
JAN Type: BA-279/U
Nomenclature: Battery
Reference: TM 11-5820-292-XX
Weight: 8
Power Output: A: 1.5, B1: 67.5, B2: 135, C: 6 Volts
Part of: PRC-8, PRC-8A, PRC-9, PRC-9A, PRC-10, PRC-10A, PRC-28
Description: The BA-279 provides all the power required for the PRC-8(*), PRC-9(*), PRC-10(*) and PRC-28 radio sets. Battery fits into the CY-744 battery box, which attaches to the bottom of the receiver-transmitter.
Source: TM 11-5820-292-10, 12 Sep 61
Created: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000
Last Modified: Mon Jul 23 18:48:25 2001

Antenna, AT-271/PRC
JAN Type: AT-271/PRC
Nomenclature: Antenna
Reference: TM 11-5820-292-XX
NSN: 5820-00-242-4967
Weight: 0.33
Size: 10-1/2 x 1/2 Diameter
Frequency Range: 20-76 MHz
Part of: PRC-8, PRC-8A, PRC-9, PRC-9A, PRC-10, PRC-10A, PRC-28
Description: The AT-271 connects to the AB-129 spring which mounts on the receiver-transmitter. The antenna is 113 inches long.
Source: TM 11-5820-292-10, 12 Sep 61
Created: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000
Last Modified: Mon Jul 23 18:51:22 2001

Antenna, AT-272/PRC
JAN Type: AT-272/PRC
Nomenclature: Antenna
Reference: TM 11-5820-292-XX
Weight: 0.5
Size: 36.5 x 0.875 Diameter
Frequency Range: 20-76 MHz
Part of: PRC-8, PRC-8A, PRC-9, PRC-9A, PRC-10, PRC-10A, PRC-28
Description: The AT-272 is a flexable spring steel tape antenna. It is 36 inches long.
Source: TM 11-5820-292-10, 12 Sep 61
Created: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000
Last Modified: Mon Jul 23 18:53:13 2001

Antenna Spring, AB-129/PR
JAN Type: AB-129/PR
Nomenclature: Antenna Spring
Reference: TM 11-5820-292-XX
Weight: 2
Part of: PRC-8(*), PRC-9(*), PRC-10(*), PRC-28
Description: The AB-129 accepts the AT-271 long antenna and mounts on the receiver-transmitter.
Source: TM 11-5820-292-10, 12 Sep 61
Created: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000
Last Modified: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000

Handset, H-33B/PT
JAN Type: H-33B/PT
Nomenclature: Handset
Reference: TM 11-5820-292-XX
NSN: 5805-00-163-9947
Weight: 0.875
Part of: PRC-8, PRC-8A, PRC-9, PRC-9A, PRC-10, PRC-10A, PRC-28, VRC-19, VRC-19X, VRC-19Y
Description: The H-33(*) is a combination microphone and receiver with a push-to-talk switch and connecting cord. It is used with radio sets PRC-8(*), PRC-9(*), PRC-10(*) and PRC-28. Microphone impedance is 40 ohms. Receiver impedance is 300 ohms.
Source: TM 11-5820-292-10, 12 Sep 61
Created: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000
Last Modified: Mon Jul 23 18:49:45 2001

Receiver-Transmitter, RT-176A/PRC-10A
JAN Type: RT-176A/PRC-10A
Nomenclature: Receiver-Transmitter
Reference: TM 11-5820-292-XX
Weight: 9
Mode: 30F3
Frequency Range: 38-55 MHz
Power Input: A: 1.5, B1: 67.5, B2: 135, C: 6 V from BA-279/U
Power Output: 0.9 W
Number of Channels: Continuous Tuning
Replaces: RT-176/PRC-10
Part of: PRC-10A
Source: TM 11-5820-292-10, 12 Sep 61
Created: Wed Jul 12 21:24:04 2000
Last Modified: Mon Jul 23 19:11:22 2001

Antenna Base, AB-15/GR
JAN Type: AB-15/GR
Nomenclature: Antenna Base
Reference: TM 11-285
Weight: 1
Description: The AB-15 is a whip antenna ibase used with MS-116, MS-117, and MS-118 and AB-22 and AB-24 antenna masts.
Source: TM 11-285, 20 Mar 51
Created: Thu Jul 13 00:12:16 2000
Last Modified: Thu Jul 13 00:12:16 2000

Antenna Mast, AB-24/GR
JAN Type: AB-24/GR
Nomenclature: Antenna Mast
Reference: TM 11-285
Weight: 1
Part of: VRC-7
Description: The AB-24 is a whip antenna section 23.5 inches long.
Source: TM 11-285, 20 Mar 51
Created: Thu Jul 13 00:12:16 2000
Last Modified: Thu Jul 13 00:12:16 2000

Antenna Mast, MS-117
JAN Type: MS-117
Nomenclature: Antenna Mast
Reference: TM 11-611
NSN: 5820-00-199-8843
Weight: 1
Description: The MS-117 is an antenna element 39.5 inches long meant to be used to construct a 15 foot vehicle whip antenna. It is used for the middle elements with the final element MS-118.
Source: TM 11-611, 15 May 51
Created: Thu Jul 13 00:36:44 2000
Last Modified: Thu Jul 13 00:36:44 2000
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
I haven't seen that square plate before is that meant to space the bracket away from the side of the jeep tub??
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It goes under the sheet metal to add strength for the bracket. sort of a spacer/reinforcement for the "L" shaped part...

Hope this helps...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah .... I see. Well that would certainly explain why I've never seen one before,
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anybody have a pic of this setup mounted in an m38? I am trying to see how it mounts to the jeep. I do have the mount.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill,
These drawings are the best I can come up with.
The first is the GRC-9 or SCR-694 systems in combination with PCR 8, 9 or 10. The drawing shows where the PRC units would go.



The second shows where to drill the mount holes for your amplifier.



Full size are on my photo site: http://miljeepradios.mypicgallery.com/
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the dimensions for the antenna mount please wait til this evening for me to find and post...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the mount itself but it is supposed to bolt to something else before being bolted to the jeep?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It bolts to the bracket shown 6 posts above.




The four hole locations are shown bottom center of the drawing as it is shown.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wes,

Can you send me a full size of these drawings. When I save them to my computer and blow them up they get very destorted
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a reproduction of it... I just reproduced the view on the drawing...



I have an original set of drawings, but they are hard to read as they are the ones that come with the hardware...

To install the radio antenna mount, you will need the Mount (MP-50), the "L" shaped bracket and the block with 4 holes in it as shown in the photos in previous posts...

Drill the 6 holes, and the one for the grommet/cable is optonal; unless you plan on mounting the radio gear... Then mount the "L" shaped bracket with the 4 hole spacer/reinforcing bar on the inside of the side panel... Then mount the MP-50 on the "L" shaped bracket. Note: there is a notch in the L shaped bracket for the upper bolt for the trailer guard panel under the rear fender...

Take your time and measure correctly and it should bolt in pretty easily... If you do not have the antenna itself they are available from several different vendors...

Hope this helps...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about how the prc and am598 are mounted to the jeep. They are to big to fit on the wheel well with the controls facing inside but if I turn it sidways everything fits fine, with the face facing the rear of the jeep.
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