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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same process for all seams, the hat channels I etched primed on the inside and then a couple of coats of hi-build primer on the inside.
The weldable primer I picked up at one of the welding supply shops here in Halifax, Nova Scotia.

I did not want to be replacing hat channels ever again on this jeep.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another interesting thing I found with this M38 was that the axe head sheath was removed and the axe bracket holes were brazed up for some reason. Since I wanted the pioneer tools I had to find and replace the sheath.



I removed from my donor tub the axe head sheath along with the surrounding metal and used the existing footman loop holes to line up the axe head sheath.
I figured this was the closest I would get to locating it in the correct position.



Next I drilled completely through a few of the spot welds with a 1/8” bit, and then removed the donor section and continued to drill the spot welds out with a spot weld cutter.
I then re-positioned the axe head sheath to check fit and alignment, after I was satisfied I removed it, sand blasted both surfaces, prepped with weld through primer and re-welded the section in place.




Then I removed the section for the axe head bracket, cleaned up the backing plate with the welded nuts and fabricated a new patch panel and repaired that area.






Problem solved!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Pat. so on the hat channels, did you drill your holes through the hat channels so they would be in a new location with respect to the old, or just go with it in a new location as you would have prepped the old stuff anyways?

and no paint on the inside of the hat channel at all, just the high build? I just wondered.

I appreciate all the advice.

thanks,

Mk
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where possible I used the original locations for the spot welds, however there were some places that had no original metal on either side so it was a best guess for these locations.
After the hat channels were drilled, and then I used a small drill bit, 1/8" in the drill to clean the paint from the underside of the tub. I would use the side of the drill bit tip to scratch the paint from where the weld was going. This method can also be used in a tight area to remove rust if you do not have access to a sand blaster.

No paint on the underside of the hat channels is correct. I use the weldable primer on the mating surfaces, both sides. Then a couple of coats of epoxy hi-build primer again on both surfaces, tub underside and the inside of the hat channels.
I did not paint inside the hat channels because when I am completely satisfied with how the jeep is running I plan on spraying rust check inside the hat channels.
This will leave the underside a bit oily, but here in Canada where they use tons and tons of salt to keep the roads clear of ice and snow each winter, it will be worth it.
I do not plan on driving my jeep in the winter, however the reason it was rusted out as bad as it was is because of where it has spent a good part of its life.
The salt on the roads, and living less than 10 miles from the ocean is not a good combination for body metal in our vehicles here on the east coast of Canada.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this day has been a very long time coming.




Sorry for the blurry second pic.
Now to start on all the little bolt on items!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations! A really nice job.
Wish my tub was as far on as that. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Pat,

Very nice job and you really give me the desire to start immediately the reconstruction of another M38.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks
I see you are from Three Rivers, my home town is North Bay, kinda close.

Another project is always a good thing, it keeps me out of the house and out of my wife's way.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ECVJeeps wrote:
...I see you are from Three Rivers, my home town is North Bay, kinda close.

Sure, I know North Bay and went often at Temiskaming.

ECVJeeps wrote:
...project is always a good thing, it keeps me out of the house and out of my wife's way...

Chut! don't talk too loud, my wife hearing fine...Laughing Laughing Laughing . Forum is as a garage, everything that is said in the garage stays in the garage...
Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:45 pm    Post subject: M38CDN Update Reply with quote

Well after a bit of a delay I finally have an update on my wife's M38.
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For some reason I can't seem to get the pictures to load?
Sorry guys.
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The account where the photos are hosted must be public. If you used a password to access the site then it's not public.
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