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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: Bonnet star Reply with quote

Hi can you help is the correct size of the bonnet star on a m38 15in or 16in. Thanks. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TB 746-93-1 Colour and Marking of Military Vehicles


Recommended Locations and Sizes of the National Symbol ( To supplement figures 2 through 8 ).
Vehicle Size in inches Location 1/4 Ton Utility Trucks
6" Right, left sides
6" Front fenders or cowl
20" Top of hood
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: bonnet star Reply with quote

Thanks Wesk. getting wrong info from local military stenciling company.
The owner of the company made out he new all about the m38 markings.
Thanks again. snoopy Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wes, what was more common for the M38? Six inch stars on the top of the cowl or on top of the fenders?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Ken,
I usually try to avoid this star issue. I personally don't care for them. They were not usually painted on here in the states. They were only required if wanted by the theater commander. Generally if we had total air superiority in the field there was no need for them.

If you look at these photos you'll see that the cowl and fenders usually didn't get any starts. One 6" on each side rear guarter, one almost 6" on the bumper and one 20" on the hood.





The Air Force was a little less flamboyant with the stars:



The purpose of the fnder or cowl stars in the manual was to display the star towards the front so it could be seen as the jeep approached you. This was often done on the M38A1 because of the front section of the fender was turned down and had a large flat surface facing forward. The M38 fender does not offer this frontal area of sheet metal in it's fenders.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok,

I thought you were refurring to an M38 in one of your above post where you wrote,......6" Front fenders or cowl.

I like the stars, I think they add something to the jeep.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope,
That was a quote directly from the general Army TB for the exterior markings late fifties thru 60's.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject: m38 markings Reply with quote

Hi. when did they make the change from 15in to 20in want to set my jeep up in korea markings. Thanks
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