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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken,
I can relate to that. I was taxing for departure from my second airport on my long cross country solo in 1994 at Stevens Point Wis. It was 4 PM and my last leg was straight west to Eau Claire Wis. The tower at SWA asked me if I could expedite and make a mid field departure on 36. I said no problem and launched from midfield. The tower ask for my final departure heading and I told them 290. Then as I was maneuvering at about 2000 I noticed the water was on the wrong side of the airplane and just as I realized my DG hadn't been set I got on the whisky compass and started to turn to 290 from 180 when the tower called and asked me my heading! Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I imagine there are tons of stories out there. We aren't alone.
I started to write another one But I ain't going to rat on me again. I did however learn and experience something new most every time I went up.
It was a lot of fun & relaxing yet sometimes there were those tense moments that made my mouth dry.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry guys, I've been out of town and no time to write back.

Wow Ken scarey stuff almost running out of fuel! Only 2gals left?!?! Shocked Thanks for the advice, I always visually check the tanks myself, and I stick my finger in the tanks, if I can't touch the fuel, I have them call the fuel truck and top'em off. Wink

Wes, if it's any comfort I get lost driving in my home state of FLA. Embarassed So flying, Er, piloting ought to be a real adventure for me! Laughing

Thanks! And keep the stories and advice coming fella's! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did it! I soloed 9 Sept 2006 1200hrs! Man, What a Feeling! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congradulations Joe
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ken! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David,

Did your jeep ever get start to get restored? When I was in high school I took a shop class my senior year to boost the GPA. I rebuilt my Ford 391 for my pickup. My dad knew the guy that owned the machine shop and we worked out at deal that on the machining that needed to be done. He would show me how but I would do the work. He also just had us pay for wear and tear on the machines (NO labor charges). Is there a way or do you have the time to spend doing something like this with the person that is doing the restoration of your jeep. That way you would learn about working on the jeep and have the joyous and not so joyous memories of doing some of the work yourself.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Michael,

Thanks for your post. No, I haven't. That's an interesting thought, I'll have to check that out. But honestly, I don't know many people. I was hopeing to after the 1st of the year. But, now I don't know, every place I've talked to about doing it, says "to do it properly it could cost upwards of $20K", and that it wouldn't be a factory restoration. Shocked So, in the end I may sell her afterall. I'm undecided and disheartened. I would have been okay with going to $10-13K, maybe up to 15k. Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Restoration cost can be very prohibitive. With shop labor rates in the $45 to $75 per hour range an average professional quality factory resto would take about 3 months at 40 hours per week that would be 480 hours. Then there's the cost of parts. If you bring in an average unrusted M38 and want a factory resto with all mechanicals overhauled you are suddenly also looking at engine O/H $1800, Tranny & Transfer O/H $800, Rear and front axle O/H $600, a new wiring harness $350, all new plumbing $400, new tires $600,
new canvas $800.

This is why I cringe when I hear a novice without mechanical or body work experience buying a rough project and paying more than $1500 for it. By paying these rediculous asking prices for really rough projects we artificially keep driving the prices higher and higher.

Anyone not thoroughly familiar with jeeps and the restoration process should get outside help to evaluate an intended purchase before he plops down the hard cash.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wesk wrote:
Anyone not thoroughly familiar with jeeps and the restoration process should get outside help to evaluate an intended purchase before he plops down the hard cash.
Amen to that. You're wise and knowledgabe WAY beyond your years, Sir. Wink
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