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arisLgr Member
Joined: Dec 25, 2016 Posts: 110 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:32 am Post subject: Bellcrank best overhaul solution? |
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Hi all again!
Not too long ago I put in a new repair kit but again I find play in the bellcrank, most up and down. I read about repair kits of various qualities but also about modifications with coned bearings and brass bushing. What do you guys think has proven after all these years to be the best way to go?
Thanks ahead!
Aris _________________ Aris
Willys M38
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1954 Mercury Monterey
1968 Corvette Stingray
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RonD2 Member
Joined: Oct 02, 2014 Posts: 1911 Location: South Carolina, Dorchester County
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Aris,
What exactly were the parts in your "repair kit"?
If your "repair kit" didn't repair the problem maybe you have a defective repair kit or some other problem that needs attention?
I wouldn't suggest modifying anything until you discover the real problem. I'd be very careful of "modifications" that persuade you they're "better".
The "Tight-steer" gadget comes to mind.
I think the best way to go is to use only quality repair parts in the entire steering system to return it to original designed performance.
Finding those parts can be a challenge.
Your life depends on it.
Just my 2-cents.
Good luck! _________________ Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51
“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari
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arisLgr Member
Joined: Dec 25, 2016 Posts: 110 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:04 am Post subject: |
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OK thanks for the input guys!
OK Ron no mods, so the challenge now as Xamon wrote, is to find what shaft length repair kit I need.
The Bellcrank is mounted again as the M38 needs to go a.s.a.p back to it’s yearly ‘comission’ for the summer holidays, however I took a picture and I know I have the WO-647008 Ord 8677020.
Now the 9 SNL G-740 mentions two bellcranks so I know which one I have, however I could not find in the book a Drawing of the Bellcrank assy itself, in order to pinpoint the part numbers of the appropriate shaft length kit. Hope this is not Greek to you 😊
Any ideas please?
Here are some pics
[img]http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album772&id=RE_PXL_20220609_114734431&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php[/img]
[img]http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album772&id=bellcrank_part_number&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php[/img] _________________ Aris
Willys M38
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1968 Corvette Stingray
1973 Mercedes 350SE
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arisLgr Member
Joined: Dec 25, 2016 Posts: 110 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:08 am Post subject: |
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still not good at picture posting.....
_________________ Aris
Willys M38
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1954 Mercury Monterey
1968 Corvette Stingray
1973 Mercedes 350SE
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16253 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Your bellcrank has a casting number on it that only represents the bellcrank in it's basic form after leaving the casting mill.
The ORD 9 does not list two different bellcranks. It actually lists the same bellcrank casting listing it first as a bellcrank only and then listing it's assembly part number when you include the parts listed below it actually assembled to it.
_________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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arisLgr Member
Joined: Dec 25, 2016 Posts: 110 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:50 am Post subject: |
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Whow very informative but at the same time confusing! Unlike other straightforward M38 repairs, the bellcrank's repair is like hit-and-miss job, with kits mixing wrong shaft lengths or missing wavy washers and what have you.
With my original bellcrank WO-647008 that has no inner play, does anyone know of a reliable supplier that has the correct kit with all the needed parts? _________________ Aris
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Pierre Member
Joined: Jun 01, 2021 Posts: 58 Location: Brome Lake, Qc, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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I got an NOS M38 bell crank repair kit from General Taylor a few weeks ago.
Reasonably priced too and good people to deal with
There on facebook _________________ Pierre H.
full restoration in progress
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