Survey of L134 engines

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Survey of L134 engines

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Hello M38 owner,

Please take a few moments to answer these questions about your M38’s or CJV-35/U's L134 engine. We are trying to refine our data base even more.

1-What is your engine’s serial number?
2-Engine Casting number (right lower side of block)
3-Is there a oval serial space on the upper right front side behind oil filter?
4-Does the rear flange of the block have 4 or 10 bolt holes?
5-Does the right side of the block have 4 or 2 expansion plugs (freeze plugs)?
6-Is your timing mark on the flywheel or front crank pulley?

Guide Photos for this survey can be viewed here:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php


Send this survey to me at wsknettl@centurytel.net

Thanks,
Wes Knettle and Ryan Miller
Group owners http://willysmjeeps.com
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/M38-M38A1-M606/
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Wes I sent you some info on M38 engine.I hope it gets to you because Iam a slow typer.Thanks Gale
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I hope someday to be able to answer these questions. :(
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Try a little recreational fishing at Caddo Lake, Bistineau or Lake of the Pines then a healthy dinner at the Catfish Kitchen and the answers will come!! :lol:
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Hmmmmm Me thinks young wesk has been in my neck of the woods :wink:
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L 134 info.

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Here is my info on my M38.

1- MC 92218
2-Engine Casting number 641087-L_W12A-N1-CR-N2
3-can't tell.
4-looks like 10 bolts
5-2 freeze plugs
6-Haven't found that yet
7-haven't found that yet
8-have not looked yet
9-M38 Serial # MC 21950

Now i do not have the one dash tag with the serial number on it,that is missing.But i do have the tag on the rear passenger wheel well and that is where the MC 21950 is marked.
can anyone tell me the date of my m38?
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Engine serials after MC74419 should have four 3/8's bell hosing mount bolt holes and six 5/16" bell housing plate to block mount holes (3 vertically on each side of the engine). Take a look at the photo site I listed on the survey which shows the areas of interest.

Best guess is May/Jun 1951. The 1950 production jeeps only had the year for a DOD on their tags and the early half of 1951 was the same with only the year of DOD shown.
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reply your questions

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Im sorry Wes, it will take me time to answer your questions. I can tell you that the engine is a civilian one.If you want this information anyway, I 'll send it to you, Thanks
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Yes. No rush.
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Bill Shaw - a M38/CJ3A - Industrial combo

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This is what I have -

I have a Willys plate with SN CJ2B 35373 - We are still trying to get the title right - I wish I had zeroxed it so I knew how it read.

1-What is your engine’s serial number? - unknown

2-Engine Casting number (right lower side of block)

8 20
641087-L-W10A N1-CR-N2

3-Is there a oval serial space on the upper right front side behind oil filter? no

4-Does the rear flange of the block have 4 or 10 bolt holes? Has 4

5-Does the right side of the block have 4 or 2 expansion plugs (freeze plugs)? Has 4 – 2 over 2

6-Is your timing mark on the flywheel or front crank pulley? I can’t find any on the front crank pulley and right now I have the wiring off so I can’t turn it over - I would guess it is on the flywheel viewed though the inspection hole under the starter, but how to index??

There is a large stamped number high on the block just over the #1 cyl manifold D246CI

This engine has a Willys industrial head - it may well be a complete Willys industrial out of a gen set, air compressor or other. Could be a Willys industrial head on the original CJ2B - 60 years – who knows.
1952 M38
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Post by charlesfitton »

Just took delivery of a PE95-K genset.

Engine is as follows:

1. M(b) 281144 Confirmed on the rebuild tag which is surprisingly - French..

2. 7 - 16 638632 W4 A NI - CR ' 2

3. yes - oval patch

4. 4 mounting bolt holes

5. 4 frost plugs

6. Front of the flywheel, with the cute wee timing cover...

best I can tell - mb/gpw air cleaner, carb elbow, carb, gen tensioner, and the featureless cyl head..

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M38 CDN 52-30105
M38 CDN 52-30883

and other green crap...
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